The average Model 3 sales price is $59000 (1), so that puts it with other econoboxes like the BMW 330 xDrive, MB C300 4MATIC, or the Lexus GS 350 F Sport.
Also the claim that this design is structural is bull****. "oh a triangle is the strongest shape" Bull****.
*edit* I am aware that the triangle is a very strong shape* but it isnt the only design that would have met the needs.
If they didn't make the truck unibody out of 3mil stainless, and put that weight into an actual chassis, they could still have met their design requirements.
That thing is hideous just to be hideous, just so it stands out. It is a statement.
Last edited by yeayeayea; 11-26-2019 at 12:37 PM.
Both generations of Chevy Avalanche used triangular buttressing to transfer the load of the bed/towing to the overall structure of the vehicle.
The original Honda Ridgeline also adopted a very similar approach as Tesla, again to transfer bed weights throughout the overall structure.
I recall reading that the new Riddgeline was able to do away with the buttresses, by adding much more substructure (weight) into C-pillar.
Considering that Tesla needed to offset the weight of the battery pack, getting rid of body-on-frame construction and associated weight makes a lot of sense.
I suppose the battery pack probably lives in the space that would have been used for the ladder sub-frame.
I think the Rivian looks great, BTW, and would probably be my choice (if prices were equal).
In a few years, we can see if the world prefers the more traditional Rivian design over the Tesla.
The Bollinger is traditional as well, but it is priced like a Lamborghini, so I won't even included it in the comparison.
I just think the Cybertruck represent a design/technical paradigm shift.
I think in most situations you're still more likely to contact at the bumper level and not higher up, but I guarantee there were a lot of swing-gates and glass replaced over the years.
As for spare tires sticking out past the bumper, the Wrangler still does this too.
My guess is this thing will be at least one and more likely two years behind schedule.
2016 GTI S 6MT 2door
How big a windshield wiper will be needed to cover that screen ... and where is said wiper going to park when not in use? Nonexistent on the prototype.
Turn signals, reflectors, outside rear view mirrors unless FMVSS changes, that high-mounted front-facing light bar is illegal for road use (doesn't meet headlight-height standards - too high), I suspect the overall width is going to require the commercial-vehicle high-mounted amber front and red rear clearance and marker lamps, rear bumper so that the top of the bodywork isn't the first thing to hit something when backing up, and if they want three-across front seating then they'll have to find a way to have airbag coverage for that person - the center passenger needs an airbag in front of them, not a TV screen. Proper crash protection is open to question for something constructed of such heavy steel. If it's so heavy that it escapes the passenger-vehicle crash standards ... probably folks shouldn't be using this as a passenger vehicle. (FWIW the Big 3 heavy-duty pickups that are >8500 GVWR still have airbags etc and aren't designed with complete disregard for crumple zones and the like)
This thing is going to require an enormous battery to get the range that they claim. It probably has double the aero drag of a Model 3, and near double the rolling resistance if they use tires sized as shown and with tread as shown. Means it needs near double the battery to get the same range. And the long-range one, double again.
Lithium battery costs are around US$175 per kWh (based on the battery assembly, not just the cell) and coming down, but even at $100 per kWh (plausible for a couple years from now), if this thing needs a 125 kWh battery to get the claimed range that's $12,500 in batteries, which at $40,000 asking price, isn't leaving a lot for building an oversized, overweight vehicle constructed of expensive material ...
Musk had expressed some interest in GM's Lordstown, Ohio factory, and since Freemont was a GM/Toyota factory, Tesla is certainly okay with a "brownfield" solution.
GM is also shuttering a factory in Canada soon. I bet our neighbors to the north would love attract Tesla to take over that facility.
Building vehicles in Canada would have a much lower political "cost" than building them in another foreign country.