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      07-21-2020 08:15 AM #2101
      current situation.

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      tore the head off and as far as i can tell the head at a minimum has been replaced with a BMW replacement head. there is no obvious signs of a blown HG, no visible cracks in the head and using a flat edge the head isnt warped past normal aluminum head flexibility. i was able to loosen most of the headbolts with a normal 3/8th ratchet and a 10" extenstion using very little torque so i think the headbolts were loosening up causing the bad leak down and pushing coolant. when running the coolant was bubbling but it was pushing past the cap. its getting ARP studs, new gaskets and slapped back together. ARP studs are in prep for boost this winter.

      head is super clean, zero sludge or burned oil.

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      also found some minor port matching was done

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      07-21-2020 08:40 AM #2102
      ^that's clean. These M52/S52's can take a beating if maintained properly.

      I don't know the complete history of the head that was on the '97 M3's S52, but when I pulled it at 200k to do a head gasket, it was spotless inside. Wasn't replaced in the 50k prior to my ownership and definitely thrashed by the PO, but well-maintained.


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      07-21-2020 09:06 AM #2103
      Quote Originally Posted by Stevo12 View Post
      ^that's clean. These M52/S52's can take a beating if maintained properly.
      in my ownership its either idling or ran at WOT all drift track miles after 40+ events. my buddy said that when they bought it the PO claimed it had a complete bmw replacement engine put it 30k miles ago but no paper work. the dot-r sticker on the head supports that atleast the head has been replaced. pistons were super clean too. had some minor scoring by the exhaust valve relief. dash says its around 120k miles (whenever the pixels come back to life i can read it )

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      07-27-2020 02:34 PM #2104
      The car came with clears and ZKW glass angel eyes with drop-in HIDs. I don't really like angel eyes or drop-in HID units, so I swapped over US spec headlights. Also went and threw on the ambers.








      Just need to fix some interior bits like the cluster lighting

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    6. 07-27-2020 02:56 PM #2105
      Quote Originally Posted by Pennywise View Post
      The car came with clears and ZKW glass angel eyes with drop-in HIDs. I don't really like angel eyes or drop-in HID units, so I swapped over US spec headlights. Also went and threw on the ambers.
      The US spec lights remind me of when people where extremely dirty eye glasses. It just doesn't sit right with me. No angel eyes I agree with, but crystal clear glass lenses are my preference.

      Either way, good on ya for doing the car your way.

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      07-28-2020 07:44 AM #2106
      Part number for these? I ordered something witch a very similar name, but it was not for this exterior handle seal.

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      After (ignore the spots; they're from the cleaning solution I used to get the 25 years of gunk off from under the handles):

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      Part number for these? I ordered something witch a very similar name, but it was not for this exterior handle seal.
      Pelican Parts #: 51-21-8-122-441

      Associated part numbers: 51 21 8 122 441, 51-21-8-122-441, 51-21-8-122-441-BOE, 51.21.8.122.441, 51218122441

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      07-28-2020 10:06 AM #2109
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      Anytime. Just keeping the good thread vibes going. You all have helped me out a ton on my ongoing refurbishment.

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      07-28-2020 11:20 AM #2110
      long story short had bad leakdown between cylinder and pushing coolant. was hoping it was just a HG. swap in new HG and ARP studs and now its running on 5cyl at idle and mixing water/oil. didnt have time to diagnose the issue due to big events coming up so i bought a 98 528i 5spd to swap the engine into the drift car. even though they are the same engine and same year its wild how different the accessories are. AC compressor is different (which sucks as mine just seized), bigger alternator with different wire hook up (hoping i can rewire the e36 harness to make it work) and the biggest thing is the powersteering lines are different and it has a factory cooler. im hoping i can make the power steering cooler work on the drift car as that will help big time with keeping the pump happy. also the reservoir is mounted up top which i like a lot and hope i can keep there

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      e36 belt routing

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      e39 belt routing

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      factory e39 power steering cooler

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      07-28-2020 12:34 PM #2111
      Quote Originally Posted by freedo84gti View Post
      long story short had bad leakdown between cylinder and pushing coolant. was hoping it was just a HG. swap in new HG and ARP studs and now its running on 5cyl at idle and mixing water/oil. didnt have time to diagnose the issue due to big events coming up so i bought a 98 528i 5spd to swap the engine into the drift car. even though they are the same engine and same year its wild how different the accessories are. AC compressor is different (which sucks as mine just seized), bigger alternator with different wire hook up (hoping i can rewire the e36 harness to make it work) and the biggest thing is the powersteering lines are different and it has a factory cooler. im hoping i can make the power steering cooler work on the drift car as that will help big time with keeping the pump happy. also the reservoir is mounted up top which i like a lot and hope i can keep there
      The belt routing on the E39 is that same as what I have on both my '97 and '98 M3s.

      I suspect the reason you don't have that top idler is the aftermarket water pump pulley, or that the PO just didn't see a need to have one (being an M52 you need all the power you can get )

      I do also believe that there were different size alternators available on the E36, or at least I was presented with different options when I went to replace the alternator in my '97. Not sure why the wiring would be different. But on my VR6, the wiring had been hacked with a different connector, even though it had a factory style connector on the alternator itself. Sometimes you just can't explain why people do what they do

      That power steering cooler would be cool, hope you can make it work. Are the connections at the rack different on the E36 vs. E39?

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      07-28-2020 12:53 PM #2112
      Quote Originally Posted by Stevo12 View Post
      The belt routing on the E39 is that same as what I have on both my '97 and '98 M3s.

      I suspect the reason you don't have that top idler is the aftermarket water pump pulley, or that the PO just didn't see a need to have one (being an M52 you need all the power you can get )

      I do also believe that there were different size alternators available on the E36, or at least I was presented with different options when I went to replace the alternator in my '97. Not sure why the wiring would be different. But on my VR6, the wiring had been hacked with a different connector, even though it had a factory style connector on the alternator itself. Sometimes you just can't explain why people do what they do

      That power steering cooler would be cool, hope you can make it work. Are the connections at the rack different on the E36 vs. E39?
      i put the water pump pulley on (ECS overdriven pulley) but never knew it had a idler i guess it works fine without it as its a stock size belt the e36 alternator has the smaller wire held on with a nut and the e39 is a plug. i have to compare connections on the rack in a couple days. im hoping to be doing burnouts by thursday as i have a 2 day drift event sat/sun. the e39 rack is behind the crossmember and the e36 is infront. it may all be the same just due to the e39 being physically larger it just looks different. the lines for sure are routed differently but they may end up in the same spot
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      07-28-2020 01:06 PM #2113
      Quote Originally Posted by freedo84gti View Post
      Dismantled E36
      You are wild and brave. I wish I had that level of wrenching ability. I think I'm pretty proficient but would be pretty concerned with that level of dismantling. When I was a lad, I was happy to swap motors on MKIIs, but my E36 scares me a bit more.

      Anyway, you all were right; amber corners all around was the move.





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      07-28-2020 01:20 PM #2114
      Ambers look great on there!!
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      07-28-2020 01:46 PM #2115
      Quote Originally Posted by x(why)z View Post
      You are wild and brave. I wish I had that level of wrenching ability. I think I'm pretty proficient but would be pretty concerned with that level of dismantling. When I was a lad, I was happy to swap motors on MKIIs, but my E36 scares me a bit more.


      Honestly, my Mk2 VR6 has given me more heartache than working on the M3. My '97 was my first head gasket job, and while I had my buddy to help me, neither of us had done an in-depth job like that before. I didn't plan on doing as much as I did, but I'm glad I did. Sometimes life just forces your hand like that, and you appreciate the push.

      I've since gone on to doing head gasket jobs on both the Mk2 VR6 and the Outback, and I really attribute the success of those jobs (as an untrained mechanic) to the confidence I got working on the M3 that first time. Especially the VR6, which has an intermediate shaft to be timed along with the crank/cams.

      Quote Originally Posted by danny_16v View Post
      Ambers look great on there!!
      I'm a weirdo in that I love the amber front corners, but the euro (clear) tails. When I bought the '97 I had one amber corner, and one clear corner. Because of what was in the junkyard, I ended up with 2 amber corners. Rear tails were euro ones, and I just kept them like that.



      The '98 had the same amber fronts and euro tails as my '97, so it was meant to be mine!



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      07-28-2020 02:06 PM #2116
      Quote Originally Posted by Stevo12 View Post


      I'm a weirdo in that I love the amber front corners, but the euro (clear) tails. When I bought the '97 I had one amber corner, and one clear corner. Because of what was in the junkyard, I ended up with 2 amber corners. Rear tails were euro ones, and I just kept them like that.
      I subscribe to the weirdo club. I have been running my M3 like that for a while too... I like the euro clears on the rear (with amber bulb) and amber side markers/corners.

      Here's a period correct filter shot lol

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      07-28-2020 02:30 PM #2117
      I was in the clear-tail club until last week.

      I'm going for a completely stock look, so I think I'm happy now. I'll probably keep the clear corners in case I want to mix it up one day.
      I can't wait until I can get the coil-overs and actually have it sitting properly.

      Clear tail lights:

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      08-01-2020 11:25 AM #2118
      Does anyone happen to have a diagram of the tail light socket locations? I am completely annoyed y the tail light failure message I keep getting. I just want to know what sockets fit in what holes, and what bulbs correspond with them.

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      About to start my MBA program, so I've been contemplating selling my M3/4/5, but after seeing this photo of it, I'm sure it's going to be much harder for me to let it go -

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      Quote Originally Posted by Pennywise View Post
      About to start my MBA program, so I've been contemplating selling my M3/4/5, but after seeing this photo of it, I'm sure it's going to be much harder for me to let it go
      That's a beautiful M3/4/5! Do you have to let it go??
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      That's a beautiful M3/4/5! Do you have to let it go??
      Silver looks so right. It's a toss-up for me whether I like my Boston Green or silver better. Silver really suits the shape.

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      Yesterday 05:47 PM #2122
      Quote Originally Posted by x(why)z View Post
      You are wild and brave. I wish I had that level of wrenching ability. I think I'm pretty proficient but would be pretty concerned with that level of dismantling. When I was a lad, I was happy to swap motors on MKIIs, but my E36 scares me a bit more.
      The solution to this is to pick up a cheap car and tear it completely apart. At the very least you will have some spare parts to hang onto, and the experience (and increased confidence) in knowing how it is bolted together. Seriously, when you are in the mindset of taking it apart and "don't care" if something breaks, it is amazing how far you'll go. Oh, and I've also learned that fasteners rarely break when you are dismantling a car... It's like they know that your alternative is to take a torch or angle grinder to them, so they give up fighting!

      Quote Originally Posted by x(why)z View Post
      Silver looks so right. It's a toss-up for me whether I like my Boston Green or silver better. Silver really suits the shape.
      I am in my mid 30's and I feel like Audi A4's and BMW 3-series are basically burned into my brain as always being Silver... That said, both cars really wear other colors well, especially green.

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      so question for you e36 guys. I have two, 328 slicktop coupes, both auto, both black / black. One has some m3 parts on it just sitting at the shop, what are they worth? they both run and drive(not the best). We don't plan on doing anything with them. I've been told the slick tops are worth a bit more. thanks in advance.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Hufeisen View Post
      That's a beautiful M3/4/5! Do you have to let it go??
      Thank you! I just won't be able to give it the attention and care someone else would in the 2.5-3 years of my program. I'd rather it go to someone who will appreciate and drive it, but we'll see how it goes over the next couple of months.
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      A local dealer is trying to sell this one for $23k USD:





      Funny how tastes change. If you rolled into a show in the early 2000s with those mesh grilles and clear corners and body colored side mouldings and an E46 fender vent you'd be the jam. Today... not so good.

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