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    1. Member Kenner8v88's Avatar
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      10-13-2009 06:13 PM #26
      Hope to post my 700+ hp up soon.

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    3. 10-13-2009 06:32 PM #27
      GT4094R at 33 psi, divided exhaust manifold, Schimmel intake, ID880cc injectors, Bosch 044 fuel pump.

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      10-13-2009 06:42 PM #29
      Quote, originally posted by [email protected] »
      A properly set-up GT40R is nuts on a VR6 engine.
      I'll be tuning another one in a few weeks.

      noob question:
      are all of these vr cars running one or two 044 pumps?
      i was under the assumption the limits for one were around the 500hp mark. i would love to be wrong and not have to buy another.

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      10-13-2009 06:49 PM #30
      Quote, originally posted by [email protected] »
      A properly set-up GT40R is nuts on a VR6 engine.
      I'll be tuning another one in a few weeks.
      I think im going to try the Precision 6765 with no coolant line center section.. I believe they make it without coolant lines. Just make the setup a tiny bit simpler. Man seeing these dyno's is driving me nuts, i just need to log off vortex so i dont get temped until after Christmas
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      10-13-2009 06:59 PM #31
      Quote, originally posted by [email protected] »
      A properly set-up GT40R is nuts on a VR6 engine.
      I'll be tuning another one in a few weeks.

      Thats a beautiful thing. I actually spoke to you awhile back when you were just starting to get things off the ground with the Lugtronic about doing my Corrado but it took me a few years to get running. I have a t3/t4 60 on there now but.......I have a 3.0L, JE 83.5mm 8.5:1comp pistons, integrated rods, ARP everything, 2mm+ intake, 1.8mm+ exhaust supertech valves, schimmel 256 cams, heavy springs, tit. retainers, viton seals, new guides and this basically brand new engine only has about 1200 miles on it.....I have turbonetics t66 thats basically new and was wondering if you had a ballpark of what you think I could put down with it on a good tune? [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emgift.gif[/IMG]
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      If it makes a difference, I really do miss my g60 Love my VRT to death but I wish I had the g60 also.......Thinking about building another one for my fiance for next year
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    8. 10-13-2009 07:44 PM #32
      The 668 whp chart above was done with one Bosch 044 pump.
      There were two dyno pulls higher than that one, exceeding 700 whp, but the curve is funny due to tire spin on the dyno.
      The 044 on a 6 injector engine will support 600+ whp all day long.
      Make sure your pump is a "real 044" and not a china knockoff, and you'll be fine.

    9. 10-13-2009 07:48 PM #33
      <<<I have a 3.0L, JE 83.5mm 8.5:1comp pistons, integrated rods, ARP everything, 2mm+ intake, 1.8mm+ exhaust supertech valves, schimmel 256 cams, heavy springs, tit. retainers, viton seals, new guides and this basically brand new engine only has about 1200 miles on it.....I have turbonetics t66 thats basically new and was wondering if you had a ballpark of what you think I could put down with it on a good tune?>>>
      - Depending on the turbine housing and some other factors, at least 600+ whp. I haven't tuned a T66 but I know of some cars that ran fast with them.

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      10-13-2009 08:24 PM #34
      Its a strangely small turbine side....I believe .53...should spool up fast but the cold side is massive so I would see it holding that boost through quite an rpm range.....
      Quote Originally Posted by SlammedGolfIII View Post
      If it makes a difference, I really do miss my g60 Love my VRT to death but I wish I had the g60 also.......Thinking about building another one for my fiance for next year
      Quote Originally Posted by dogger View Post
      Your fiance should break up with you if you give her a G60. That's like giving her a cubic zirconia for a engagement ring...
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      10-13-2009 09:49 PM #35
      im positive its a genuine 044 pump, thanks for the real world input good sir as i do appreciate it!

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      10-14-2009 01:36 PM #36
      I went with the 4094 also, but i have a 2.9 liter built bottom end with a 41mm 36mm big valve head 268's, custom semi equal length with velocity stacks short runner and a 4 inch exhaust. All ran on MS1 V3. i put down around 365 on 15 psi on a GT3255E precision turbo on my old set-up. I think i went a little to far on my fuel system tho 1000cc injectors fuel cell and the aeromotive pump, so i should be good there.

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      10-18-2009 12:10 AM #37
      arent 268's to big of a came to pre productive? thought 264 and less was best?

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      10-18-2009 12:35 AM #38
      Quote, originally posted by tuckeje &raquo;
      arent 268's to big of a came to pre productive? thought 264 and less was best?

      depends on where you want to make power.
      turbo cams should have as little overlap as possible, but beyond that you need bigger cams in order to make power up top.

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      10-18-2009 10:25 PM #39
      Quote, originally posted by tuckeje &raquo;
      arent 268's to big of a came to pre productive? thought 264 and less was best?

      that is a myth, u will make more power with a bigger cam, spool and where your powerband is, is whats affected though, but if u like top end power and have a big turbo, it makes for one hell of a setup...sorry for bad grammar lol

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      10-23-2009 04:36 PM #40
      so if the 044 pump is able to handle the 700+ whp what about the walbro 255? what are its limits?

    17. 10-23-2009 05:23 PM #41
      Quote, originally posted by huichox4 &raquo;
      so if the 044 pump is able to handle the 700+ whp what about the walbro 255? what are its limits?

      depends on what fuel pressure you run.
      The bosch can supply 550cc injectors at 100% on 3bar fpr and 2bar of boost.
      Depending on what setup you have i wouldent even go over 500whp on most turbo applications.

      walbro is crap over 4bar.
      fall of and die quick

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      10-23-2009 05:32 PM #42
      Quote, originally posted by [email protected] &raquo;
      depends on what fuel pressure you run.
      The bosch can supply 550cc injectors at 100% on 3bar fpr and 2bar of boost.
      Depending on what setup you have i wouldent even go over 500whp on most turbo applications.

      walbro is crap over 4bar.
      fall of and die quick

      well I have a GT3582R in an R32, I got a kinetics/CTS stg 3 kit and instead of using a head spacer I went with forged rods and lower 84.5mm 8.5:1 compression JE coated pistons. fueling is walbro 255, 580cc injectors with C2 stg 2 tune (500+whp)
      the kit came with the walbro but if necesary I can get one cheap to run parallel. Would that work for boost levels that will put me above the 500whp mark on this above setup?
      thanks for your input
      Luis

    19. 10-23-2009 05:54 PM #43
      Quote, originally posted by huichox4 &raquo;
      well I have a GT3582R in an R32, I got a kinetics/CTS stg 3 kit and instead of using a head spacer I went with forged rods and lower 84.5mm 8.5:1 compression JE coated pistons. fueling is walbro 255, 580cc injectors with C2 stg 2 tune (500+whp)
      the kit came with the walbro but if necesary I can get one cheap to run parallel. Would that work for boost levels that will put me above the 500whp mark on this above setup?
      thanks for your input
      Luis

      R32 need 1bar of boost to get 500whp
      so if you switch to 3bar FPR and get +1 you might be avle to get the pump to supply the injector.
      it wont do that at 5bar (oem 4bar fpr)
      there is a 2.7 also from bosch

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      10-23-2009 06:35 PM #44
      Quote, originally posted by [email protected] &raquo;
      R32 need 1bar of boost to get 500whp
      so if you switch to 3bar FPR and get +1 you might be avle to get the pump to supply the injector.
      it wont do that at 5bar (oem 4bar fpr)
      there is a 2.7 also from bosch


      I understand what you say. and what about my other quesion if a dual walbro setup will be ok if I am using the 4bar regulator? is it not efficient?
      thanks again
      Luis


    21. 10-24-2009 04:00 AM #45
      Quote, originally posted by huichox4 &raquo;

      I understand what you say. and what about my other quesion if a dual walbro setup will be ok if I am using the 4bar regulator? is it not efficient?
      thanks again
      Luis

      dual walbro needs a catch tank so that they dont starve the r32 intank that deliver ~3600cc and the walbros request almost double at 3bar
      i had a 044 intank to feed my dual walbro before i went dual 044 with catch tank

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      01-22-2018 12:18 AM #46
      All of you guys are running such high horsepower and boost. How many of you run into cylinder 1/2 rod bearing failure. I have schimmel building me a block that i want spec'd to 800whp. Is he legit?


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      03-13-2018 05:32 AM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by B5S4VR6-T View Post
      All of you guys are running such high horsepower and boost. How many of you run into cylinder 1/2 rod bearing failure. I have schimmel building me a block that i want spec'd to 800whp. Is he legit?


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      Schimmel is the man to go to. Rod bearing failure can be a lot of things. But bad assembly, bearings pointing the wrong way ? ALOT of 800whp VR6s around. Rod bearing fail is not common.
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      03-24-2018 03:05 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by Norwegian-VR6 View Post
      Schimmel is the man to go to. Rod bearing failure can be a lot of things. But bad assembly, bearings pointing the wrong way ? ALOT of 800whp VR6s around. Rod bearing fail is not common.

      So he is finished with my motor and its shipped i hope this will be a strong finish to my project.


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    25. 04-19-2019 12:30 AM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
      12v VR6, GT4294R smooth chart is stock head, higher midrange chart has headwork.
      I know i'm 10 years late but how the f%$# did you make a groing and flat powerband above 6500rpm with a stock head? never seen that in 1 year of search....and in my actually current car.

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