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    1. Member compy222's Avatar
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      03-17-2017 09:21 AM #76
      Quote Originally Posted by The A1 and A2 German View Post
      So much car for $4,000 or, there's a reason this is $4,000.

      Considering this isn't an ultra rare "omg" ~barn find, what a find!......I would go another route.

      - 10 hours buffing the paint
      - 5 hours buffing the glass
      - 5 hours reconditioning and redying the seals
      - 2 weeks pulling apart (semi apart) the interior and shampooing and redying the carpet, treatment of all the leather, treatment of the wood, and just bringing her back to life on the inside where needed.

      Then, the controversy: ~Modern 4 disk swap with modern brakes, drivetrain and modern motor swap. 1.5-2" drop on coils and something that complements the car considering the wheels. I'd document the original pieces and sell to others for their restoration purposes.

      Mint mint inside, mint mint outside, however solid with an EFI V8 ~modern system.

      Let's face it, the #1 reason people avoid cars of this nature is the nightmare which lies beneath it's sheet metal. No one's scared of the body, the interior, the radio, the chrome, the paint.....it's the components under neath which make people cringe, so do away with them.

      Do it proper, no bright colors under the hood, no red or blue AN fittings, no stainless steal braided lines. Take the ~modern V8 valve covers and powdercoat them that old red plum matt champagne color, and components that old tan color, using brushed nickle hardware. Nothing glossy, nothing bling.

      Best of both words, like a house built in the 1900's with modern wiring, plumbing and roof.
      this would be my advice as well. it's going to be a real pain and you'll need to do a lot of specialty work like getting the gauges to work correctly. with that being said, that thing making cammed LS noises at idle would really rustle some jimmies.
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      03-17-2017 09:40 AM #77
      Honestly, the fuel system itself isn't that complicated. I'm sure the tank and carbs are full of varnish, but a good drop of the tank, flushing to make sure that there isn't any rust (which would get into the lines), I'm not sure if this car had any mechanical or electric fuel pumps, but those are low pressure, and a good going over of the massive SU carbs (Any British car guy worth his salt could help you there) and you should be fine.



      The SU HIF7 is fairly common, Jags used them as well.
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      03-17-2017 11:19 AM #78
      Quote Originally Posted by compy222 View Post
      this would be my advice as well. it's going to be a real pain and you'll need to do a lot of specialty work like getting the gauges to work correctly. with that being said, that thing making cammed LS noises at idle would really rustle some jimmies.
      there arent that many gauges. and it doesnt have a tach. so the swap is practically done!!


      but seriously, theres a reason there arent tons of these with v8 swaps rolling around. itd be nothing like putting a v8 into an old jag.
      maybe bears repeating, but i swear ill swap , but the car is built around that brake system and engine. the only swapped ones ive seen have been those wild SEMA builds with tube frames, because it would require major surgery to reconfigure. and that point youve spent more than it would have taken to make it right with stock parts, and i bet itd be worth all of the $4k you bought it for.
      whereas fixing it back to working factory spec youd end up with a $25k bentley. it just doesnt make sense...

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      03-17-2017 11:50 AM #79
      Quote Originally Posted by Aonarch View Post
      Yes please. LS Swap it.


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      03-17-2017 01:33 PM #80
      An LSx swap is hogwash. This motoring carriage deserves propulsion from a quality Humphreys & Tennant triple-expansion steam engine fueled by only the finest South Wales coal. With such a powerplant it could reach the East Indies Station from Portsmouth Docks in a matter of mere days. To do otherwise would be sheer simple-mindedness.
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      03-17-2017 02:04 PM #81
      Thank you, sir. It is good to see a man use the Queen's when referring to this fine piece of heavy engineering, assembled by Cheshiremen in a manner that is certainly consistent with the work ethic of the Midlands.
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      03-17-2017 02:14 PM #82
      I love this thread. Vad, do you own this yet?

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      03-17-2017 02:24 PM #83
      Quote Originally Posted by dubdaze68 View Post
      in a manner that is certainly consistent with the work ethic of the Midlands.
      now now, theyre hand built, but theyre handbuilt well at least!
      have you measured how square an MG is? now thats built to the best work ethic of the midlands! hah

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      03-17-2017 02:30 PM #84
      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post
      now now, theyre hand built, but theyre handbuilt well at least!
      have you measured how square an MG is? now thats built to the best work ethic of the midlands! hah
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      03-17-2017 02:36 PM #85
      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post
      now now, theyre hand built, but theyre handbuilt well at least!
      have you measured how square an MG is? now thats built to the best work ethic of the midlands! hah
      You would think that after making the same car for almost 20 years, they would finally get it right. Alas, that was a bridge too far.

      British Leyland is a cautionary tale for going too big, and never rationalising brands.
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      03-17-2017 03:42 PM #86
      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post
      now now, theyre hand built, but theyre handbuilt well at least!
      have you measured how square an MG is? now thats built to the best work ethic of the midlands! hah
      One might surmise that the early cars were 'more square' than the later ones. Would that be an incorrect assumption? (Hey, I'm trying to use the Queen's English to fit in here!)
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      03-17-2017 03:50 PM #87
      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post
      One might surmise that the early cars were 'more square' than the later ones. Would that be an incorrect assumption? (Hey, I'm trying to use the Queen's English to fit in here!)
      im not so sure - i think all years had rear axles offset ~1/4-1/2" to the passenger (i think...) side. and trunk openings were always within +/-1/8" on the diagonal.

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      03-17-2017 03:53 PM #88
      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post
      im not so sure - i think all years had rear axles offset ~1/4-1/2" to the passenger (i think...) side. and trunk openings were always within +/-1/8" on the diagonal.
      Wow! I'm just not used to that kind of thing. Mine were German (duh) and the build quality was amazing for its day, especially after a couple of decades of production. This is just so... weird to me.
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      03-17-2017 09:06 PM #89
      UPDATE!!! UPDATE!!! UPDATE!!!

      M Roadster has been seen and driven by me and titleist1976. We even cruised on the highway for dudes and saw a Peruvian supercar. Bentley should be seen by Monday/Tuesday since the place is closed on weekends.

      I really thought the M Roadster was going to be a pile before I went to Eurotrash motors. However, I was pleasantly surprised that it wasn't put together from 3 different cars after 2 bottles of Stoli.
      The body on that car is straight and i didn't find any evidence of frame damaging accidents. It looks like it was just daily driven by a heavy set person(driver seat is pretty gone) that didn't flog it.
      Trans felt great, clutch and brakes were tight and engine revved and behaved just as good as the 64K mile S52 in my M.
      It does seem that the top is compromised and with the recent rain we got in Sac the interior was drenched and possibly had a bit of standing water in it.
      I am not going to write a 2 page report about this car right now because my 4yo is yanking me from my computer but overall it is a pretty solid, not mechanically abused sample of an M Roadster. On the East Coast it would be bought up by Vinnie from Southern NJ in no time.
      It got a 10 footer paint job by Eurotrash which looks pretty good RIGHT NOW.
      Car needs heavy interior cosmetic TLC.
      Has Bilsteins. They look like HD units and definitely don't feel as tight as Sports. Pretty sure they are non-adjustable.

      I am not a mechanic so look at pics and maybe you can spot something I didn't.
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      CURRENT VERDICT: nm+, titleist and I agree that it is too nice for Vad. I think it is worth close to the asking price considering what some forum lunatics are asking for their regular Z3s.

      Interesting Top situation:


      East Coasters will cry when they see this rust free pic:


      Front bumper plastics got a Euro Star motors special 200mph wood screws.


      Top needs new seals since they are either completely missing or about to go missing.


      Looking pretty good over here:


      Still good:


      Hey, that's pretty good:


      A bit of a rats nest behind teh tight "halo" lights:


      Master brake cylinder and booster look new and brakes feeel really good:


      Temps were fine but the traction button was flashing once went i went WOT in 3rd gear and car just sat there. Maybe because oil temps were still low?:


      No rear view for u:


      OG Business(?) Sytem:


      Titleist started yelling Peruvian supercar from a block away and it took me a second to spot it:


      Does the stitching pattern still matter when its no longer there? Leather is gone from most of the wheel:


      Either Eastern yuropean jizz or some kind of agressive mold on bottom of the seats:


      Here is you behind the seats look:


      I might need to see a respiratory therapist after riding in this thing:


      Bodyman Boris had some stoli and went chiki briki with the flat head:


      Looks like PO backed into something with the exhaust:



      Billsteins Brah!


      More updates to follow next week.
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      03-17-2017 09:56 PM #90
      On the door... a few chips in the paint.

      A little more mold.

      Someone loved this shifter. A LOT.

      Is there supposed to be a subwoofer in there?

      Weird clearcoat thing going on in the trunk lid

      More mold...


      The car was interesting. It needs a lot of tlc. The wheels need some new clearcoat, too. A bunch of the vin numbers matched up. Good times. Two dudes driving down the highway in this thing got some looks.
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      03-17-2017 10:06 PM #91
      Damn, that thing is rough. Check your lungs for spores.
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      03-17-2017 11:01 PM #92
      Thankfully, we forgot to check the a/c system. And the top was down while driving. Hopefully we avoided any spores.

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      03-17-2017 11:30 PM #93
      This may all have been for naught. The Roadster Russians deleted the CL post a few hours ago.
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      03-18-2017 12:32 AM #94
      Quote Originally Posted by VadGTI View Post
      This may all have been for naught. The Roadster Russians deleted the CL post a few hours ago.
      That's some bs. I bet it comes back for more money. That place was a hole. Have Vlad text him.

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      03-18-2017 12:41 AM #95
      Quote Originally Posted by titleist1976 View Post
      That's some bs. I bet it comes back for more money. That place was a hole. Have Vlad text him.
      Wait, a car dealership in Rancho was sketchy? Well, I never!
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      03-18-2017 01:16 AM #96
      Quote Originally Posted by nm+ View Post
      Wait, a car dealership in Rancho was sketchy? Well, I never!
      You should see this place. It's in the middle of a neighborhood. An old lube shop or something. It was fun watching Vlad in his natural state.

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      03-18-2017 09:20 AM #97
      FWIW, of all the decent quality engine swaps I've seen in these cars (from GM V8's to Toyota turbo diesels); they all found a way to retain the hydraulics by replacing the cam driven pumps.
      Several cars used electric pumps, while one had a belt driven pump.

      Shows that even with slick engineering, it's still easier to just (mostly) keep what's already there.

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      03-18-2017 12:55 PM #98
      Quote Originally Posted by VadGTI View Post
      This may all have been for naught. The Roadster Russians deleted the CL post a few hours ago.
      welp better buy a Bentley
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      03-18-2017 01:09 PM #99
      Quote Originally Posted by Juniper Monkeys View Post
      welp better buy a Bentley
      Truth. I'm sure vad can get another picture out of it.
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      03-18-2017 05:35 PM #100
      Quote Originally Posted by Juniper Monkeys View Post
      welp better buy a Bentley

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