Vad, I sure hope to see it in your driveway.
here is a thread on a nearly identical '67 shadow
So much car for $4,000 or, there's a reason this is $4,000.
Considering this isn't an ultra rare "omg" ~barn find, what a find!......I would go another route.
- 10 hours buffing the paint
- 5 hours buffing the glass
- 5 hours reconditioning and redying the seals
- 2 weeks pulling apart (semi apart) the interior and shampooing and redying the carpet, treatment of all the leather, treatment of the wood, and just bringing her back to life on the inside where needed.
Then, the controversy: ~Modern 4 disk swap with modern brakes, drivetrain and modern motor swap. 1.5-2" drop on coils and something that complements the car considering the wheels. I'd document the original pieces and sell to others for their restoration purposes.
Mint mint inside, mint mint outside, however solid with an EFI V8 ~modern system.
Let's face it, the #1 reason people avoid cars of this nature is the nightmare which lies beneath it's sheet metal. No one's scared of the body, the interior, the radio, the chrome, the paint.....it's the components under neath which make people cringe, so do away with them.
Do it proper, no bright colors under the hood, no red or blue AN fittings, no stainless steal braided lines. Take the ~modern V8 valve covers and powdercoat them that old red plum matt champagne color, and components that old tan color, using brushed nickle hardware. Nothing glossy, nothing bling.
Best of both words, like a house built in the 1900's with modern wiring, plumbing and roof.
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this thing was literally built around that engine and funky brake system.
also it already has 4 wheel disc brakes with huge calipers (four piston on each rear corner).
also, coils and a drop on one of these would really defeat the purpose of the car. its meant to be totally isolating from the road. ruining that makes it kind of pointless IMO...
These old RR/B cars are like M-cars, in that there's a 'standard' going rate for a good clean car. Fire-sales aside, cheap cars are cheap for a reason, and by the time you buy a cheap car and make it into a 'nice' car, the outlay would be the same as just buying that nice car in the first place.
The fuel system is the least of your worries on that car; I'll just leave this here:
Getting that out of the way, as long as you go in with open eyes, it's not too bad. Parts are not stupid expensive and almost everything is readily available; even if it's a 2 week wait ex-UK.
There's nothing like rolling a Rolls (or B) to make you feel a million bucks.
Oh, and read ValveCoverGasket's thread start to finish. The read it again.
Last edited by drecian; 03-16-2017 at 08:38 AM.
So yea, worse comes to worse, you have the coolest car in the neighborhood to get drunk in while sitting in your driveway.
2002 Harley Fat Boy, 2004 Yukon XL Denali, 1993 F-250
replacing any of that with "conventional" hardware would be a huge undertaking.
for example, there isnt a brake master cylinder (these early cars had one for "brake feel" but thats about it), or a place to put a booster.
on the other hand, fixing whats already there - and what works well if its maintained! - is a lot easier as you can order up a few boxes of parts from albers or flying spares that youre sure will fit and go wild replacing them.
im not a purist by any means, but its a stretch to think you could have it converted to some "conventional" state for less money/effort than itd take to just make it a working stock example. not to mention it wouldnt be worth much if you hacked it all up to fit a SBC in there.
so, in closing, of course theyre complicated - they cost ~2x the price of an average home when new.
but all of the parts are available and nearly all of the complex systems were designed to be rebuilt and all of those rebuild and service parts are available.
...but i feel like im talking to myself... in before someone else posts "yeah, but itd be perfect with an SBC"
nadaguides does seem to play that out as well
'67 T1 RHD - 20-26k average retail
'67 SS1 RHD - 13-18k average retail
wikipedia says 1700 T1s produced during the SS1 run
as compared to 16700 SS1s. so ~1/10 as many. that explains the much higher pricing for whats essentially a carbon copy of the SS1 with a different grill and badges.
if you were looking for a shadow based car to sink money into bringing it back to life, this would be about the wisest choice as far as that goes. and assuming the engine is fine, and the transmission doesnt need rebuilding, youd actually stand to break even or have some equity, once you were done. especially since the paint and interior look good on this one. its the reason id avoid that blue one at the specialty dealer posted earlier.
First it was like everyone in TCL was buying Chevy SS's... then we had a run on Golf R's... I think this era of Bentleys and RR's should be our next "group buy"
I've been pestering ValveCoverGasket for info on these, they just seem like the perfect way to distract yourself from being stuck in LA traffic - assuming you've properly refreshed the cooling system, of course..
Vad I really hope you get this one, or another like it.
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