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      01-11-2017 09:59 AM #1
      This was announced Monday but haven't seen a thread on it here?

      Cliff Notes
      CAR: Chevy Bolt (electric car)
      Truck: Honda Ridgeline
      Utility: Chrysler Pacifica

      I thought it was interesting how far the winners were from votes in second place.


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      DETROIT, Jan. 9, 2017 /PRNewswire/ — The 2017 Chevrolet Bolt electric car, Honda Ridgeline pickup and Chrysler Pacifica minivan were named 2017 North American Car, Truck and Utility Vehicle of the Year, respectively, Monday.

      The announcement was made at the North American International Auto Show Monday in Detroit.

      The Bolt electric car received 364 points from the jury of automotive journalists across the United States and Canada. The Genesis G90 sedan from Hyundai’s new luxury brand was second with 105, followed by the Volvo S90 sedan with 101.

      The Honda Ridgeline midsize pickup received 364 points to beat the Ford F-series Super Duty, 193, and Nissan Titan, 72.

      The Chrysler Pacifica minivan got 300 points to top the Mazda CX-9, 135, and Jaguar F-Pace, 125. The award for utility vehicle of the year is new for 2017. It includes sport utility vehicles and minivans. It was added due to surging consumer interest in SUVs, many of which compete with minivans as kid-friendly family transportation.

      The jury and renowned designer Ed Welburn also presented a check for $5,000 to the Children’s Hospital Foundation of Michigan Foundation as payment for Welburn’s design of a new trophy for the awards. Welburn is a former design director of General Motors.

      The Bolt boasts an EPA-certified range of 238 miles on a charge and prices that start under $30,000 after applying tax credits.

      The Ridgeline was engineered to offer a pickup bed for cargo on a car-style chassis that delivers a smoother ride than most pickups. It offers unusual features like a “trunk” under its cargo bed’s floor and a double-hinged tailgate that opens down or from the side.

      The Pacifica minivan replaces two models in Fiat Chrysler’s lineup, the Chrysler Town & Country and Dodge Grand Caravan. It’s innovative features include a plug-in hybrid model that can go 35 miles on a charge, enough to cover daily driving for many minivans.

      The North American Car and Truck and Utility Vehicle of the Year awards honor excellence in innovation, design, safety, performance, technology, driver satisfaction and value. Initiated in 1994, they are judged about 60 professional automotive journalists from the United States and Canada who work for magazines, television, radio, newspapers and web sites. They are the longest-running award not associated with a specific publication, a structure that produces a diverse base of jurors.

      Jurors evaluated dozens of new vehicles that went on sale this year to determine the finalists.

      The award for Utility Vehicle of the Year is new for 2017, in recognition of the growing popularity of SUV-style vehicles. Passenger-oriented minivans are also eligible for Utility of the Year. Vehicles eligible for Truck of the Year include pickups of all sizes and light- and medium-duty commercial vans.
      It seems like a big deal for Honda to once again release an all new truck and win Truck of the Year again.

      Found some polar quotes from trucks.com

      Someone who doesn't get it.
      So some safety features, and an inverter built into the box, makes this truck of the year? Toyota has had that for a while. What about its tiny box? Towing capacity? Cant even install a gooseneck into it. Longevity? See how strong it is after 10 yrs of canadian rust. I’m more inclined to think it would have won suv of the year. I’m thouroughly dissapointed, to me this just discredits whomever voted for this “truck”
      Someone who does.
      As a previous owner of a GMC , Dodge Ram, Toyota and Datsun trucks which I enjoyed each and everyone of them my all time favorite truck is my new 2017 Honda Ridgeline the Honda. It provides enough truck features and amazing car like ride with great safety features and technology that rivals my Lexus Rx350. Honda knew there were great choices by other manufactuers to go off roading, pull a heavy trailer, or haul construction supplies to a work site. For a large number of people who need to pull an occasional trailer , carry 1,500 lbs of equipment in the bed but who mostly use it as a daily driver they built the Ridgeline. I like going to Home Depot and easily parking in a narrow parking space and then having the safety sensors alert me if someone walks behind my truck as I back up. Every truck has its good to great features, the Ridgeline is fun and comfortable to drive and has technology that keeps you safe.
      Congrats to the OE's for winning prestigious awards.
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      01-11-2017 10:20 AM #2
      Quote Originally Posted by GTijoejoe View Post
      Someone who doesn't get it.


      Someone who does.
      lol.

      My nephew didn't "get it" when it came to the first generation Ridgeline, as he had an Avalanche. When the two were new the Honda got better mileage, but at the end GM had improved the mileage to where it was a wash or at least close to it. He said something like "but you can't tow with it or haul 'X' amount of stuff." I simply told him "they didn't make it for you, they made it for guys like me." I didn't need those capabilities and the trunk was worth more than that to a guy who needs to drive it to work and makes occasional Home Depot runs. He got it after that, but since he hauled a boat and camper he didn't initially see the draw of it. He's cool with it now, but understands that it simply doesn't serve his needs.
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    4. 01-11-2017 10:23 AM #3
      Thankfully they chose the Chevy Bolt. A great win for GM.

      When the gen 1 Prius came out, they awarded the CoTY to the PT Cruiser.

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      01-11-2017 10:33 AM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
      When the gen 1 Prius came out, they awarded the CoTY to the PT Cruiser.
      To be fair the PT Cruiser was a huge hit when it first came out. The failing was letting it wither on the vine.
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      01-11-2017 10:36 AM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
      Thankfully they chose the Chevy Bolt. A great win for GM.

      When the gen 1 Prius came out, they awarded the CoTY to the PT Cruiser.
      The Prius 1 wasn't that good, though. It wasn't until the second gen car came out that they really got their act together and made it into the brilliant car we know today. It also wasn't the first hybrid in the U.S., making it less "special".
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      01-11-2017 10:41 AM #6
      Although I'd fancy a King Ranch F-150, the Ridgeline would best match my real-life truck usage....that being 90% not truck stuff, 10% light truck stuff like hauling crap from Home Depot, hauling bikes, towing my 356 on top of a rented U-Haul trailer, etc.
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      01-11-2017 10:42 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post
      lol.

      My nephew didn't "get it" when it came to the first generation Ridgeline, as he had an Avalanche. When the two were new the Honda got better mileage, but at the end GM had improved the mileage to where it was a wash or at least close to it. He said something like "but you can't tow with it or haul 'X' amount of stuff." I simply told him "they didn't make it for you, they made it for guys like me." I didn't need those capabilities and the trunk was worth more than that to a guy who needs to drive it to work and makes occasional Home Depot runs. He got it after that, but since he hauled a boat and camper he didn't initially see the draw of it. He's cool with it now, but understands that it simply doesn't serve his needs.
      The big three has told the market what a truck is and they've been buying into it for years.

      I called the Ridgeline would win this award when it was released, so I'm not really surprise. The market has been asking for this type of vehicle, maybe even subconsciously.
      I imagine others will follow, I hear the Ford Ranger is coming back
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      01-11-2017 10:46 AM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by chucchinchilla View Post
      Although I'd fancy a King Ranch F-150, the Ridgeline would best match my real-life truck usage....that being 90% not truck stuff, 10% light truck stuff like hauling crap from Home Depot, hauling bikes, towing my 356 on top of a rented U-Haul trailer, etc.
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      Quote Originally Posted by GTijoejoe View Post
      The big three has told the market what a truck is and they've been buying into it for years.

      I called the Ridgeline would win this award when it was released, so I'm not really surprise. The market has been asking for this type of vehicle, maybe even subconsciously.
      I imagine others will follow, I hear the Ford Ranger is coming back
      To be fair he's amazingly intelligent, but in this case wasn't looking past his own legitimate needs. He uses the Avalanche as it was designed to be used, I simply never would. I would use the Ridgeline how it was designed to be used.
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      01-11-2017 12:27 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post
      *shakes fist at sky




      To be fair he's amazingly intelligent, but in this case wasn't looking past his own legitimate needs. He uses the Avalanche as it was designed to be used, I simply never would. I would use the Ridgeline how it was designed to be used.
      Make a run to Whole Foods with enough cargo space left over to pick up your artisanal armoir?


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      01-11-2017 12:31 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
      Thankfully they chose the Chevy Bolt. A great win for GM.

      When the gen 1 Prius came out, they awarded the CoTY to the PT Cruiser.
      Not that the PT Cruiser was anything special but it was a hit when it first debuted, but got very tired very quickly and the HHR was supposed to replace it. Also, Gen 1 Prius does not equal Gen 2.

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      01-11-2017 12:45 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by clutchrider View Post
      Not that the PT Cruiser was anything special but it was a hit when it first debuted, but got very tired very quickly and the HHR was supposed to replace it. Also, Gen 1 Prius does not equal Gen 2.
      Huh? The HHR was made by GM, and the PT Cruiser was a Chrysler.

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      01-11-2017 03:22 PM #12
      This is not about sales. Ridgy just peaked at just over a whopping 4k for December 2016.

      Can't help but wonder how the Bolt will do in just 2 states.

      Pacifica has been solid though.

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      01-11-2017 04:23 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by TigerinColorado View Post
      This is not about sales. Ridgy just peaked at just over a whopping 4k for December 2016.

      Can't help but wonder how the Bolt will do in just 2 states.

      Pacifica has been solid though.
      I heard the ridgeline production is limited because they can't build enough pilots to meet demand in the bama factory

      Either way, I don't think its going reach crazy high volumes.
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      01-11-2017 04:30 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by Smigelski View Post
      Make a run to Whole Foods with enough cargo space left over to pick up your artisanal armoir?

      That doesn't sound like me in particular, but you're basically on the right track! The Whole Foods sundries could fit in the trunk and the furniture in the bed. It just dictates where you go first and how you unload.


      My '66 VW Doublecab had it's trunk under the back seat, but yeah, it's über practical to have both!
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    16. 01-11-2017 04:48 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by clutchrider View Post
      Not that the PT Cruiser was anything special but it was a hit when it first debuted, but got very tired very quickly and the HHR was supposed to replace it. Also, Gen 1 Prius does not equal Gen 2.

      the point is that the Gen 1 Prius was the first hybrid ever and that the journalists didn't recognize that it was the first example of a new category of drivetrains.

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      01-11-2017 04:52 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
      the point is that the Gen 1 Prius was the first hybrid ever and that the journalists didn't recognize that it was the first example of a new category of drivetrains.
      Wrong.
      The Prius was the first mass produced hybrid electric car.
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      01-11-2017 04:59 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
      the point is that the Gen 1 Prius was the first hybrid ever and that the journalists didn't recognize that it was the first example of a new category of drivetrains.
      Yet it wasn't much of an actual car. Its mileage wasn't that good and what it did was prove a theory rather than work like it should. Toyota learned much from it... They learned how to make the second generation car, which was one hell of a car. That car, while not technically a milestone like the first gen, was miles ahead and worthy of COTY honors.
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      01-11-2017 05:42 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post
      That doesn't sound like me in particular, but you're basically on the right track! The Whole Foods sundries could fit in the trunk and the furniture in the bed. It just dictates where you go first and how you unload.


      My '66 VW Doublecab had it's trunk under the back seat, but yeah, it's über practical to have both!
      Hey, I'm the guy with a RWD 4 cylinder Ranger because a Ridgeline was too much truck for him.

      I'd really like the new Ridgeline, but the styling is just terrible to my eyes. The front is so round and bubbled and the back is so angular. It really looks like the chopped two cars in half and glued them together.

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      01-11-2017 05:54 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
      the point is that the Gen 1 Prius was the first hybrid ever and that the journalists didn't recognize that it was the first example of a new category of drivetrains.
      In the US, didn't the Honda Insight beat the Toyota Prius to market?

      However, the 2001 Prius' fuel economy wasn't that much of an improvement over a similar size regular car (Toyota Echo). It was the 2004 generation that improved fuel economy, increased interior space and utility, and generally was a much nicer car.

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      01-11-2017 08:57 PM #20
      Ridgeline? Does that mean nobody will buy them, like last time?
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      01-11-2017 09:15 PM #21
      Unibodies winning truck of the year. This country is doomed.
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      01-11-2017 09:20 PM #22
      Just wanted to say- the new Pacific looks really good in person.

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      01-11-2017 09:33 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by NoXenons View Post
      Unibodies winning truck of the year. This country is doomed.
      What do you want, an even bigger BOF truck? This one is the only one that is actually different and fills a niche that nothing else does. Anypickup truck in our market could be replaced by a competitor and it would do almost exactly the same job. (The biggest fundamental difference would be the Dodge's bedbox sides, whatever they're called.)

      ...Except the Ridgeline.
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      01-11-2017 10:51 PM #24
      Yuck. Except the Bolt.


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      01-12-2017 11:01 AM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by NoXenons View Post
      Unibodies winning truck of the year. This country is doomed.
      Soooo... to be a truck it must be body on frame?

      Definition of truck: Body on frame + dedicated cargo area + towing capacity of ?

      I'm trying to fill in a new wiki page of truck definition
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