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    1. 02-18-2014 03:38 PM #177
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      02-18-2014 05:12 PM #178
      not in love with it.
      looks more like volvo, weird.
      I love my 335,
      but the new S3 would be a combination of my Golf R and 335D, so I'm interested.
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      02-18-2014 05:49 PM #180
      I tried pricing the M235i with the options comparable to the S3 I want, it's not cheaper.

      They are both good small fun cars in their own ways with their pros and cons. Personally, I just can't get over the BMW image. The CLA doesn't come in AWD for now without going AMG and a well equipped CLA45 is a lot more coins, approaching an S4. Other than that, new Golf R, STI, ATS 2.0t AWD? Actually, the ATS isn't cheap neither.

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      02-18-2014 06:00 PM #181
      Look what happens when I post a comment on a Jalopnik story about the CLA45 regarding the S3....

      http://jalopnik.com/the-2015-audi-s3...ked-1525380480

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      02-18-2014 06:04 PM #182
      Quote Originally Posted by ChrisFu View Post
      Look what happens when I post a comment on a Jalopnik story about the CLA45 regarding the S3....

      http://jalopnik.com/the-2015-audi-s3...ked-1525380480
      Lollerskates. He linked right to my Drive document. I wonder if there's a way to see how many unique views a Drive link gets. Surely there is...

      Your ninja edit wasn't ninja enough.

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      02-18-2014 06:10 PM #183
      Haha i noticed at the top with each refresh you have a different set of anonymous animals in the view history.

      Quick, find a way to get some google AdSense money off the hits!
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    8. 02-18-2014 07:14 PM #184
      Haha, looks like our little thread is popping up all over the place. Been on quite a few 2-series forums as well, I've been poking around there as I've been cross shopping the cars.

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      02-18-2014 09:29 PM #185
      I wondered how long it would take for someone to point out my dry sense of humor in the upper right corner of the document.
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      02-18-2014 09:47 PM #186
      ... and so it begins. The less scrupulous outlets are starting to act like the leak is official: http://www.autoguide.com/new-cars/20.../s3/index.html.

      Their G+ post states it as if it's a fact.

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      02-18-2014 10:12 PM #187
      Quote Originally Posted by Dan Halen View Post
      ... and so it begins. The less scrupulous outlets are starting to act like the leak is official: http://www.autoguide.com/new-cars/20.../s3/index.html.

      Their G+ post states it as if it's a fact.

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      i guess that pricing includes destination which is $895.

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      02-18-2014 10:32 PM #188
      With destination, we'd be looking at $41,995 and $47,895. It's not included in the leak pricing.
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      02-19-2014 01:17 AM #189
      Any idea why no Premium price on the list? I'm guessing it's because they'll only do those two levels, but I guess there's part of me hoping there'll still be an announcement about a lowest level.

    14. 02-19-2014 01:37 AM #190
      Quote Originally Posted by George@Fourtitude View Post
      Any idea why no Premium price on the list? I'm guessing it's because they'll only do those two levels, but I guess there's part of me hoping there'll still be an announcement about a lowest level.
      This was the case when the car was briefly up on Audi Canada's website a couple months ago.

      My guess is that a Premium trim S3 would create an extremely odd pricing situation. I'm already surprised to see overlap in price between the A3 and S3 lineups, even if its only a few hundred dollars. This isn't the case with the A4 and S4, or any of the other A# and S# siblings in the Audi lineup.

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      02-19-2014 07:16 AM #191
      Quote Originally Posted by Leke View Post
      I'm already surprised to see overlap in price between the A3 and S3 lineups, even if its only a few hundred dollars. This isn't the case with the A4 and S4, or any of the other A# and S# siblings in the Audi lineup.
      It's one of the reasons I'm considering the S3. The only option I really care about is the smart key. I was pretty annoyed on my Golf R that I had to get a package with Nav, sunroof and Dynaudio just to get the smart key when it's offered on much less expensive cars these days, but since the package was "only" $1,500 it made it palatable. I can count on both hands the number io times I've opened the sunroof or used the Nav, and I rarely listen to music that benefits greatly from the upgraded audio system.

      So for what I want, if I have to get the most expensive R with a bunch of stuff I don't want, or the least expensive S3 with an extra year of warranty and hopefully some other goodies (better seats?) for a few grand more, I'll at least explore that option.

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      02-19-2014 08:01 AM #192
      Quote Originally Posted by George@Fourtitude View Post
      Any idea why no Premium price on the list? I'm guessing it's because they'll only do those two levels, but I guess there's part of me hoping there'll still be an announcement about a lowest level.
      George,

      I'd suspect that there's some back and forth at AoA over the need for a Premium S3. Case in point are Audi's other S cars, which are generally Premium Plus and Prestige only.

      I wouldn't be surprised if there is a contingent pushing for a lower-priced entry S model, hence the opening in the leaked pricing guide for a Premium model.

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      02-19-2014 09:04 AM #193
      Quote Originally Posted by ChrisFu View Post
      Look what happens when I post a comment on a Jalopnik story about the CLA45 regarding the S3....

      http://jalopnik.com/the-2015-audi-s3...ked-1525380480

      Sorry about your google docs traffic, Dan
      Heh, when I saw the jalopnik post last night on my facebook newsfeed I couldn't wait to rush on here to check out the talk, good work fellas. This thread is now fact in the eyes of online auto journalism .

      In seriousness though, there's a part of me that wonders if Audi will push the pricing soon to kill disinformation now that the jalopnik's of the world are releasing articles about it. Not saying this will influence them at all on when they release it, just curious.
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      02-19-2014 09:05 AM #194
      Quote Originally Posted by Travis Grundke View Post
      George,

      I'd suspect that there's some back and forth at AoA over the need for a Premium S3. Case in point are Audi's other S cars, which are generally Premium Plus and Prestige only.

      I wouldn't be surprised if there is a contingent pushing for a lower-priced entry S model, hence the opening in the leaked pricing guide for a Premium model.
      I wonder if a premium S3 would be too closely priced to the mk7 golf R...
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      02-19-2014 10:54 AM #195
      Quote Originally Posted by EZ View Post
      So for what I want, if I have to get the most expensive R with a bunch of stuff I don't want, or the least expensive S3 with an extra year of warranty and hopefully some other goodies (better seats?) for a few grand more, I'll at least explore that option.

      The R vs. S3 debate, many will cross shop them.
      Since they'll both be 4 door... it's about status and money. It's like a Golf R 2dr vs. Audi TT-S. If the hatch/trunk/manual isn't a deal breaker, and let's say money is no object... The S3 wins in my book, it is a stunning machine, it looks like a $40-50k vehicle. It will turn heads, it appears to be luxury and sport. The R will not really turn heads, that is actually preferred by some. It's not really stunning, to most people, it doesn't look luxurious. It DOES NOT look like a $35-42k machine. It's stealth. If someone wants to make a statement, they will get the S3. If they want the same performance and save some coin for mods, the R is a good value.

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      02-19-2014 11:13 AM #196
      Quote Originally Posted by ChrisFu View Post
      First BMW I have seen in almost a decade that I actually like.
      Agreed, I would take this in a heart beat over the A3 convertible, even if it doesn't come with the M badge...and I am one of the last people to own a BMW.

      I have a feeling BMW is going to accomplish what Audi missed with the interior. Looking forward to some seat time when the 2-series arrives, HOWEVER, still not enough doors for me right now.

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      02-19-2014 11:50 AM #197
      Quote Originally Posted by George@Fourtitude View Post
      Any idea why no Premium price on the list? I'm guessing it's because they'll only do those two levels, but I guess there's part of me hoping there'll still be an announcement about a lowest level.
      Good writeup, George.

      http://fourtitude.com/news/audi-rumo...aked-document/

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      The photos BEM sent to me show exactly what I put in the now-infamous Google Doc file for Premium S3 pricing. I suspect the "-" in place of "TBA" is a relatively firm assertion that there's no Premium trim. It'd have the same meaning as the "-" marks under P trim for Audi Connect... ergo, not available. Generally speaking, this follows their order guide syntax as well.
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      02-19-2014 01:42 PM #198
      A dealer contact of ours (I won't reveal who) reached out to me today about this story. I've updated the story linked above to reflect this. He said a few things.

      1) He confirmed pricing.

      2) He confirmed Premium Plus and Prestige only, and that's already been astutely pointed out above that there's precedent for this in other S-cars.

      3) The US engine will NOT feature dual injection as seen with the Euro model. As a result, the EPA hasn't yet given finalized hp and consumption figures and thus their absence from that table. Also, he suggested the US-spec engine will be about 280 hp due to the differences.

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      02-19-2014 02:10 PM #199
      Quote Originally Posted by George@Fourtitude View Post
      A dealer contact of ours (I won't reveal who) reached out to me today about this story. I've updated the story linked above to reflect this. He said a few things.

      1) He confirmed pricing.

      2) He confirmed Premium Plus and Prestige only, and that's already been astutely pointed out above that there's precedent for this in other S-cars.

      3) The US engine will NOT feature dual injection as seen with the Euro model. As a result, the EPA hasn't yet given finalized hp and consumption figures and thus their absence from that table. Also, he suggested the US-spec engine will be about 280 hp due to the differences.
      Is this info NA wide or just US?
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    24. 02-19-2014 02:36 PM #200
      Quote Originally Posted by George@Fourtitude View Post
      3) The US engine will NOT feature dual injection as seen with the Euro model. As a result, the EPA hasn't yet given finalized hp and consumption figures and thus their absence from that table. Also, he suggested the US-spec engine will be about 280 hp due to the differences.
      Wow, seriously? So it wont have port and direct injection? That was one of the more appealing features. If so that may be the final nail in the coffin for me.

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      02-19-2014 02:37 PM #201
      Quote Originally Posted by George@Fourtitude View Post
      3) The US engine will NOT feature dual injection as seen with the Euro model. As a result, the EPA hasn't yet given finalized hp and consumption figures and thus their absence from that table. Also, he suggested the US-spec engine will be about 280 hp due to the differences.
      No dual injection!??

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      02-19-2014 02:42 PM #202
      Quote Originally Posted by The DarkSide View Post
      Wow, seriously? So it wont have port and direct injection? That was one of the more appealing features. If so that is definitely the final nail in the coffin for me.
      Yeah, thats not something i wanted to hear either. I hope thats not accurate. It makes me wonder what other engine improvements they are planning to exclude.

    27. 02-19-2014 03:11 PM #203
      Might have to cross the S3 off my list. I can understand why some features such as the automated parking got cut for safety or regulatory reasons, but why would they get rid of dual injection? The whole point of it is to allow for the benefits of direct and port injection. I can't see any kind of reason, emissions or otherwise, to cut this feature.

      So now depending on which way they go, we get to deal with an even bigger drop in power, decreased fuel efficiency, or the terrible carbon build-up that plagued many 2.0ts (including my own).

      If Audi wants to appear like the US market is important to them, they need to not gimp the car before it even makes it into the dealerships. I don't even see how the S3 could possibly be rated at the same 0-60 as the euro-spec cars with the power and engine technology downgrades.
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      02-19-2014 03:15 PM #204
      Quote Originally Posted by George@Fourtitude View Post

      3) The US engine will NOT feature dual injection as seen with the Euro model. As a result, the EPA hasn't yet given finalized hp and consumption figures and thus their absence from that table. Also, he suggested the US-spec engine will be about 280 hp due to the differences.
      What the actual ****? That's some damn bull****.
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    29. 02-19-2014 03:22 PM #205
      DA HECK.

      slowly leaning towards golf R
      waiting even moreee i gueeess lol

    30. 02-19-2014 03:45 PM #206
      better not be true or I'm out.



      Quote Originally Posted by T1no View Post
      DA HECK.

      slowly leaning towards golf R
      waiting even moreee i gueeess lol
      If true, the golf likely won't have it either…..unless you're just saying you're leaning that way because it'll be cheaper, despite the gimpiness?
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      02-19-2014 03:49 PM #207
      Quote Originally Posted by T1no View Post
      DA HECK.

      slowly leaning towards golf R
      waiting even moreee i gueeess lol
      If the S3 won't have dual port injection, highly doubt the R will.

      My Q5 with the 3.2 motor in it had the carbon build up issue last year. Audi took care of it, but the process to clean the motor involved dropping the subframe from the body, then taking the intake apart to clean out the gunk.

      Fortunately they modified the powertrain warranty to cover carbon build up, and doubled it to 10 years - but I would not want to deal with that in another vehicle again.

      I may just have to sit on the side lines this year and see what they decide for MY 2016 - OR just pony up the extra dough and get myself into an S4.

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      02-19-2014 03:55 PM #208
      oh wow, AND they want to still charge $47k plus for the Prestige with 280 hp . WTF...yeah if thats the case count me out. What's the point of an S3 if it doesn't get that dual injection tech.

    33. 02-19-2014 03:58 PM #209
      Quote Originally Posted by .:Ru4dubn¿ View Post
      better not be true or I'm out.





      If true, the golf likely won't have it either…..unless you're just saying you're leaning that way because it'll be cheaper, despite the gimpiness?
      ^

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      02-19-2014 04:01 PM #210
      The cars available to the journalist groups in Monaco in November were European-spec S3s, weren't they? I wonder how much less favorable their opinions would be had they been given gimpy US cars.
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