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    1. 11-18-2012 06:58 PM #1
      Passed the CA bar on the first attempt. Yes it's a shameless plug, but damnit I'm proud of myself. Yay me, right? Well, as it turns out, I may need to commute over an hour a day (two hours for both trips), and my 18 mpg highway truck might not be so great on the wallet. So, the question is whether it makes financial sense to trade the truck in for something better on gas, buy a beater with good mpg, or suck it up and drive. Common wisdom indicates I shouldn't trade if I'm going to take a loss, but I'm also open to changing up the primary vehicle if I'm so intrigued.

      Of note- I really, really like the new Fusions.
      Also of note-- my commute is not twisty roads. Its a long, straight, So Cal desert highway.

      So what say you TCL? Any good suggestions?


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      11-18-2012 07:00 PM #2
      Get the Fusion...


      And Lemon Law it.



    3. 11-18-2012 07:03 PM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by Shomegrown View Post
      Get the Fusion...


      And Lemon Law it.

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      11-18-2012 07:33 PM #4
      Or you can get a car to make you look more like a lawyer
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      11-18-2012 07:33 PM #5
      Does your job require your car to interact with clients? IE visiting their offices or taking a client to lunch on occasion?

      Personally I think at your point in life (I am going to assume that you are making entry level money and have plenty of college debt) that investing a large part of your income into a new car payment is a poor, poor idea. If you dont need to impress clients, I would suggest something along the lines of a CPO sedan around $10-15k Sonata, Altima, etc.
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      11-18-2012 07:36 PM #6
      My condolences.

      Advice? Work for the government 40 hrs/wk, get benefits, have time for a personal life, and drive whatever the hell you want. Clients suck.
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      11-18-2012 07:40 PM #7
      What do lawyers commute for. Stalking the news for car accidents and industrial injuries then rush our to beg the victims to let you lead the charge in a civil lawsuit?

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      11-18-2012 07:41 PM #8
      Any of the VW TDIs are great highway cruisers. This one gets 42mpg highway. The smaller Golf gets 50mpg.


    9. 11-18-2012 07:42 PM #9
      Buy this its very lawyer-ish


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      11-18-2012 07:43 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by cberwald View Post
      Any of the VW TDIs are great highway cruisers. This one gets 42mpg highway. The smaller Golf gets 50mpg.
      A Golf TDI does not get EPA 50 highway

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      11-18-2012 07:45 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by Noisyninja View Post
      My condolences.

      Advice? Work for the government 40 hrs/wk, get benefits, have time for a personal life, and drive whatever the hell you want. Clients suck.
      Yes clients suck. I'm not a lawyer yet and I know clients suck because i deal with them at least five days a week, however, that doesn't mean he should just go work for the government. If anything is more soulless than being a lawyer, it's being a lawyer for the government.

      So, I suggest: be a lawyer, make $$$, get elected to a judgeship, keep that seat until you get benefits, then retire with 2/3rds of your pay for life.

      Congrats on passing the bar the first time around. I hear the CA bar is just.... ridiculous.

      Pick up a CPO Lexus GS or something. Yes it's bland to drive but, as you said, you don't have to deal with curvy roads. It's damn good looking, very nice inside, will impress clients and co-workers, is very reliable, relatively inexpensive to fix, etc.

      It's something I'd consider for a day to day car were I looking at the same sort of commute you were.

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      11-18-2012 07:52 PM #12
      Congrats on passing the bar! I think the Fusion idea is marvelous. I think Ford will soon be offering a plug-in hybrid version soon enough, perhaps wait on that?

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      11-18-2012 07:53 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by one swell foop View Post
      If anything is more soulless than being a lawyer, it's being a lawyer for the government.
      Most of the public defenders and state's attorneys I know would disagree. However, I'm lucky enough to work in a courthouse with genuinely compassionate and decent human beings.
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      11-18-2012 08:03 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by Noisyninja View Post
      Most of the public defenders and state's attorneys I know would disagree. However, I'm lucky enough to work in a courthouse with genuinely compassionate and decent human beings.
      I live in a state with no public defenders, they assign a lawyer to the case when a defendant can't afford one. Of course, in order to save money, they recently passed a law making it so that, by logical interpretation of the law, if the Defendant can afford a lawyer for the hearing they are in, then one will not be appointed. It's going to be a horrific mess.

      But then again, I live in jesus loving Alabama, and what do you want when you love jesus? To see sinners punished to the full extent of the law, especially the black ones, the poor ones, and the poor black ones.

      It takes a particularly reasonable judge or DA to advocate and practice reform in sentencing. Hell, my uncle was one of the judges that did, but it's damn hard to get elected on that. The public wants to know the judges they elect are going to be "tough on crime".

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      11-18-2012 08:04 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by one swell foop View Post
      But then again, I live in jesus loving Alabama, and what do you want when you love jesus? To see sinners punished to the full extent of the law, especially the black ones, the poor ones, and the poor black ones.
      That's ironic, because I'm pretty sure Jesus is all about the exact opposite of that.
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    16. 11-18-2012 08:12 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by one swell foop View Post
      If anything is more soulless than being a lawyer, it's being a lawyer for the government.
      I might be, in fact, working for the govmt. Government is better than personal injury, at least.

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      11-18-2012 08:19 PM #17
      Fusion will not give you the smugness of this

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      11-18-2012 08:19 PM #18
      LOL, which part of Riverside or San Bernardino county?
      You're getting a Prius. Just accept it. There's toyota dealers out basically everywhere here and that is a good thing. There's a reason the county pretty mcuh has all priuses these days.

      Also government lawyer>private attorney.

      also, another ****ing socal TCL lawyer.
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      11-18-2012 08:24 PM #19
      Congrats on the bar passage, and even more so, congrats on the job. What sort of practice?

      Oh, and my response to your question, get a bike. You can split lanes in Cali, right? No more traffic jams, 50+mpg, and your wife /gf / bf (san fran? lol) can't make you get groceries on the way home.

    20. 11-18-2012 08:27 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by nm+ View Post
      LOL, which part of Riverside or San Bernardino county?
      You're getting a Prius. Just accept it. There's toyota dealers out basically everywhere here and that is a good thing. There's a reason the county pretty mcuh has all priuses these days.

      Also government lawyer>private attorney.

      also, another ****ing socal TCL lawyer.
      I mean, gas mileage is one thing, but sitting in a prius for 10 hours a week is rough. That stale green-blue lighting makes me cringe.

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      11-18-2012 08:28 PM #21
      Congrats! A buddy of mine just passed as well.

      I think I'd second the Prius if I was driving that much.

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      11-18-2012 09:27 PM #22
      Common wisdom be damned, there's just some stereotypes we must adhere to in order to maintain this society. Successful real estate agents and bankers drive mercedes, doctors have rear engined porsches, ferraris for stockbrokers, mustangs for cops and firemen, corvettes for mustachios, town cars for mobsters. And lawyers.........must own BMWs!!!!!!!! Or old caddy verts as long as you mind the mud.
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      is this you?
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      11-18-2012 09:44 PM #24
      If you are going to drive a lot, buy something that's a year old and has already taken a hit on depreciation. <20,000 miles and with a warranty still remaining.

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      11-18-2012 09:59 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      A Golf TDI does not get EPA 50 highway
      Well, that's what VW of Duluth has painted on the windows of them. #Falseadvertising

    26. 11-18-2012 10:23 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by Jedidub View Post
      Buy this its very lawyer-ish

      In other words, this.

      call it potatography

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      11-18-2012 10:33 PM #27
      The first month I became a lawyer (started my job, not passed the bar) I bought two 1-series cars. (My wife was a lawyer too, also for a large firm).

      Car Lounge Pro Tip: Never tell anyone you are a lawyer. People will hate you and it will follow you around forever.

      But in all seriousness, get whatever makes you happy. Unless your commute is more than, say, 400 miles per week, gas mileage won't have that big of an impact on your annual expenses (do the math, you won't believe how little it changes things).

      You will be working long, hard hours. Buy something that will put a smile on your face on days when you get to the office before sunrise and leave long after sunset. You worked hard to get here. I'm not saying you should buy a Ferrari, but its OK to spend a bit of money to get something fun.

      Those are my $0.02. And welcome to lawyering.
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      11-18-2012 10:38 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by one swell foop View Post
      If anything is more soulless than being a lawyer, it's being a lawyer for the government.
      This is completely inaccurate.

      My wife did 2+ years at a large law firm right out of law school making six figures. She took a $75,000/year pay cut to be a public defender about 15 months ago. She loves it. She's never been happier. And I actually get to see her (when I'm not holed up in the office). She is in the court every day, she works on super interesting cases (much of the time), and she only has to engage in a limited amount of motion practice.

      I, on the other hand, still work at a large firm. But I love my job (I am a tax attorney, so NERD).
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      11-18-2012 10:44 PM #29
      ^^^^^^^^^^
      If he's a government lawyer in the counties he could be, he shouldn't be buying a new BMW just yet.


      Quote Originally Posted by Bonanza View Post
      I mean, gas mileage is one thing, but sitting in a prius for 10 hours a week is rough. That stale green-blue lighting makes me cringe.
      I don't sit in it 10 hours a day but my county car is a prius and I've lived.

      Did you just get hired? If so, I wonder if you work for my office (not so many that require miles of desert driving). What kind of law?
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      11-18-2012 10:45 PM #30
      The first month I became a lawyer (started my job, not passed the bar) I bought two 1-series cars. (My wife was a lawyer too, also for a large firm).
      See. This is DIR. Lawyers own BMWs, end of story.
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      11-18-2012 10:48 PM #31
      Keep the truck if you need it, don't get a beater tho. Beaters to save on fuel never really work. They typically aren't the most fuel efficient cars themselves. They need maintenance, added insurance and repair costs, tires etc... You'll spend twice the difference than just filling up a truck I'd bet.

      Getting a new/newer car makes sense. If you're doing a longer commute it's nice to have something comfortable and reliable to be in and depend on.

      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      A Golf TDI does not get EPA 50 highway
      You can get 50mpg driving it on a highway, just not doing 70+ mph. It's not a lie saying a Golf can get 50mpg on a highway. Transport Canada rates them at 50 mpg (US gallons - 4.6 to 4.9L/100kms depending on hatch or wagon and auto or manual). In MPG terms, they advertise them as 60mpg cars here because the older folks still use the larger Imperial Gallon and MPG.

      I guess our test drivers just know how to drive a diesel properly. I was always able to achieve the 50mpg the window sticker said it could get with my 2010 TDI. Their test 'highway' speed was around 50-60mph tho. Which is actually similar to the US EPA speed using their older system. On a two lane country highway with a 50mph speed limit I was able to hit 57 MPG (US gallons) several times. If I actually drove the 62mph speed limit on our express highways, I could still keep it at or above 50mpg.

    32. 11-18-2012 10:51 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by nm+ View Post
      ^^^^^^^^^^
      If he's a government lawyer in the counties he could be, he shouldn't be buying a new BMW just yet.




      I don't sit in it 10 hours a day but my county car is a prius and I've lived.

      Did you just get hired? If so, I wonder if you work for my office (not so many that require miles of desert driving). What kind of law?
      The keyword in this thread is might... And I know well enough not to give more specifics lest one of the car loungers see to it my attempts are derailed. But there is good advice in this thread. How do you like the stock audio system in the prius? If you don't mind commuting in it much maybe it isn't as bad as I'm thinking.

      My truck is a nice place to be in traffic-- the seats seem to be made for fat people so I can shift around a lot like it's a sofa. Quite comfy. How are the prius seats?

      edit-- I forsee this coming down to a diesel car v. prius (I guess Fusion isn't competing then? ) So I'll go test drive a prius. What next? New TDI, or older? Any other diesels to consider?
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      11-18-2012 10:53 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by nm+ View Post
      ^^^^^^^^^^
      If he's a government lawyer in the counties he could be, he shouldn't be buying a new BMW just yet.
      I never said BMW. I said something fun.

      I am buying an Elise or an NSX in the next few weeks. I was looking to trade my 135i in against a 2013 Golf TDI.

      But when I did the actual math (I commute 250 miles per week), and I included the depreciation on a brand new car, the 135i is about the exact same price.

      But even on a county attorney's budget, you can find fun cars. A miata? A used WRX? GTI?

      These cars get good mileage and can be found affordably.

      ***EDIT - before people jump down my throat, I was comparing the cost of keeping my current 135i (take the bulk of its depreciation hit) vs. trading it in against a brand new Golf TDI. I was not comparing the cost of a brand new 135i vs. a brand new Golf TDI.
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      11-18-2012 10:57 PM #34
      ^^^^^
      Out in the desert, a 1 hour commute each way is more like 700mi per week. Putting that kind of miles on a fun car is a bit of a waste.
      Quote Originally Posted by Bonanza View Post
      The keyword in this thread is might... And I know well enough not to give more specifics lest one of the car loungers see to it my attempts are derailed. But there is good advice in this thread. How do you like the stock audio system in the prius? If you don't mind commuting in it much maybe it isn't as bad as I'm thinking.

      My truck is a nice place to be in traffic-- the seats seem to be made for fat people so I can shift around a lot like it's a sofa. Quite comfy. How are the prius seats?
      Audio system is fine but not great. Note that we get the base model (not even remote start), so we don't get the optional higher end system.

      I wouldn't buy something German. Barstow, Blythe, Joshua Tree, and even Victorville might be issues if **** happens.
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    35. 11-18-2012 10:57 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by SchnellFowVay View Post
      I never said BMW. I said something fun.

      I am buying an Elise or an NSX in the next few weeks. I was looking to trade my 135i in against a 2013 Golf TDI.

      But when I did the actual math (I commute 250 miles per week), and I included the depreciation on a brand new car, the 135i is about the exact same price.

      But even on a county attorney's budget, you can find fun cars. A miata? A used WRX? GTI?

      These cars get good mileage and can be found affordably.
      Owned a GTI, wasn't thrilled. Spent lots of seat time in an NA miata, and I refuse to climb in and out of that thing in a suit every day. Plus my eyes sit about a millimeter below the top of the windshield, and I had a nagging feeling that it was incredibly unsafe if I'm hit by anything.

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