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      11-18-2012 09:56 AM #1
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      Should for offer this engine as an option perhaps? I think I'm still drunk from last night

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      11-18-2012 09:58 AM #2
      **** no. In a Raptor, give me the biggest V8 you can fit...

    3. 11-18-2012 10:01 AM #3
      Sure, why not. Most of the ones I see around me never do more than hop some curbs and drive down a gravel road like a grandma.
      Guess that is what happens when you over extend yourself to buy a nice truck. They seem afraid to put a scratch on it.

    4. 11-18-2012 10:19 AM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by Air-over-water View Post
      Sure, why not. Most of the ones I see around me never do more than hop some curbs and drive down a gravel road like a grandma.
      Guess that is what happens when you over extend yourself to buy a nice truck. They seem afraid to put a scratch on it.
      haha. I would NOT generalize like that. This is my good friend's modded raptor a few weeks ago....



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      11-18-2012 10:19 AM #5
      The 6.2L in the Raptor is the only engine in the F150 lineup paired with the Hydraulic power steering system. All the other engines (Ecoboost included) are integrated with the Electric Power steering system. That being the case I remember someone in the know (who works in the industry) stating that Ford WILL NOT put the Ecoboost in the Raptor because it's not designed to be used with the Hydraulic steering setup.

      Take that information for what it's worth, but that's what I heard.

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      11-18-2012 10:28 AM #6
      Doesn't seem like a more powerful ecoboost would be worth the power loss for the few extra MPGs. I would say if you buy a Raptor, be prepared to fill it up. It's a fun toy and should be used that way.
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      11-18-2012 10:35 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by RollingInDubs View Post
      The 6.2L in the Raptor is the only engine in the F150 lineup paired with the Hydraulic power steering system. All the other engines (Ecoboost included) are integrated with the Electric Power steering system. That being the case I remember someone in the know (who works in the industry) stating that Ford WILL NOT put the Ecoboost in the Raptor because it's not designed to be used with the Hydraulic steering setup.

      Take that information for what it's worth, but that's what I heard.
      hydraulic steering is better for off road and not as prone to failure off road?

      wonder if they will come out with an ecoboost v8 anytime soon

    8. 11-18-2012 11:11 AM #8
      we have a customer with a tuned ecoboost, downpipes back exhaust and livernoise tune goddam truck runs a 12.6

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      11-18-2012 11:29 AM #9
      Have you ever driven an F-150 with EcoBoost 3.5 engine? It is an amazing mill no doubt but it is Lexus quiet, sounds like an 80's V6 Camaro with a glass pack if you do anything to the exhaust. Also while the powerband is smooth,and the overall experience is fairly yawn inducing. There are great engines, and there are performance engines, the 3.5 Ecoboost is a great engine but it is not a high- performance engine.

      The Raptor really needs a big burly sounding V8, I don't want a truck like this to feel or sound like a Lexus LS even if it was faster or more powerful with the Ecoboost.

      That said I would buy an Expedition EL in a heartbeat if it offered the EcoBoost in that application instead of the old 3V 5.4 they are still using in it. I think Lincoln Navigator sales would spike if the SUV got the Ecoboost 3.5 too.
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    10. 11-18-2012 11:36 AM #10
      Maybe if there was a V8 ecoboost motor to drop in ...

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      11-18-2012 11:45 AM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by callmedoc View Post
      Isn't this the kind of thing that Ford said causes bent frames? From the picture it's pretty clear it is catching a lot of air and I believe they said the truck isn't designed for anything that results in all 4 wheels leaving the ground at the same time. I'm all for catching air in trucks, but if this is what Ford says bends frames then it doesn't seem worth it.


    12. 11-18-2012 12:05 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by callmedoc View Post
      haha. I would NOT generalize like that. This is my good friend's modded raptor a few weeks ago....

      Just saying, I would bet there is a market for them.

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      11-18-2012 12:20 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by 71DubBugBug View Post
      hydraulic steering is better for off road and not as prone to failure off road?

      wonder if they will come out with an ecoboost v8 anytime soon
      Pretty much. A lot more durable in severe service applications. That's why you don't see the electric steering system in the Super Duty Line.

      Word has it there is an ecoboost V8 in development. Whether it's intended for the trucks or the Mustang has yet to be determined.

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      11-18-2012 12:37 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by RafaGti View Post

      Should for offer this engine?
      ... oh FORD

      srsly thou, looks like potential for moarboost and offroad funz
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      11-18-2012 12:46 PM #15
      Raptor needs a big, loud V8.
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      11-18-2012 01:23 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by AZGolf View Post
      Isn't this the kind of thing that Ford said causes bent frames? From the picture it's pretty clear it is catching a lot of air and I believe they said the truck isn't designed for anything that results in all 4 wheels leaving the ground at the same time. I'm all for catching air in trucks, but if this is what Ford says bends frames then it doesn't seem worth it.

      No, the frame damage was caused when the rear suspension ran out of travel from hitting multiple obstacles. IIRC, there was a video floating around somewhere - a Ford engineer explaining that the frame failure was more desirable than the alternative; a 'donkey kick', in which the truck could likely flip or roll.

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      11-18-2012 03:26 PM #17
      They should Eco boost the 6.2 V8 instead.

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      11-18-2012 03:27 PM #18
      Diesel Raptor please!
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      11-18-2012 07:20 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by TurboWraith View Post
      No, the frame damage was caused when the rear suspension ran out of travel from hitting multiple obstacles. IIRC, there was a video floating around somewhere - a Ford engineer explaining that the frame failure was more desirable than the alternative; a 'donkey kick', in which the truck could likely flip or roll.
      The name of the picture is "Bottomingout.jpg". That seems pretty self-explanatory.

    20. 11-18-2012 07:21 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by Shomegrown View Post
      **** no. In a Raptor, give me the biggest V8 you can fit...
      and also two turbochargers.
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      11-18-2012 07:41 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by 71DubBugBug View Post

      wonder if they will come out with an ecoboost v8 anytime soon
      Yup. Based off the 5.0! It will make an appearance in the next gen navigator first.

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      11-18-2012 08:45 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by Ark6 View Post
      Yup. Based off the 5.0! It will make an appearance in the next gen navigator first.

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      11-18-2012 11:09 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by AZGolf View Post
      The name of the picture is "Bottomingout.jpg". That seems pretty self-explanatory.
      Yes, which on its own wasn't the end of the world, if I recall.

      The truck can certainly have all 4 tires airborne and land without frame damage. We've see countless videos of that being done.

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      11-18-2012 11:44 PM #24
      Rather than a Ecoboost Raptor I'd rather see a F150 ST. Regular Cab short bed, 2WD F150 Ecoboost, 4.55 LS Rear End. Lowered suspension, bigger sway bars and a mildly upgraded I/H/E and ecu program.
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      11-19-2012 01:56 AM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by AZGolf View Post
      but if this is what Ford says bends frames then it doesn't seem worth it.
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