Fourtitude.com


Links back to The Car Lounge (opens in same window)
+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 26 of 26

Thread: EcoBoost RAPTOR??

  1. Member
    Join Date
    Jul 24th, 2006
    Location
    Arlington, VA
    Posts
    394
    Cars
    2005 VW Gti 1.8T
    11-18-2012 09:56 AM #1
    So


    +



    =



    Should for offer this engine as an option perhaps? I think I'm still drunk from last night

  2. Member Shomegrown's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 26th, 2002
    Location
    Detroit
    Posts
    15,345
    Cars
    Current: Audi S4, B8 Audi Allroad quattro, Dodge Dakota 4x4
    11-18-2012 09:58 AM #2
    **** no. In a Raptor, give me the biggest V8 you can fit...

  3. 11-18-2012 10:01 AM #3
    Sure, why not. Most of the ones I see around me never do more than hop some curbs and drive down a gravel road like a grandma.
    Guess that is what happens when you over extend yourself to buy a nice truck. They seem afraid to put a scratch on it.

  4. 11-18-2012 10:19 AM #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Air-over-water View Post
    Sure, why not. Most of the ones I see around me never do more than hop some curbs and drive down a gravel road like a grandma.
    Guess that is what happens when you over extend yourself to buy a nice truck. They seem afraid to put a scratch on it.
    haha. I would NOT generalize like that. This is my good friend's modded raptor a few weeks ago....



    -Victory Red C6 Corvette Z51 Convertible 6-speed--Long Tube Headers/X-Pipe/Intake/Exhaust/Tune/MGW STS, Custom Audio/Navi, Carbon Fiber Interior Red-Stitching, Carbon Fiber Rear Valance/A-pillar/Handles/Lip, 427 Vert' Satin Black Cup Wheels, LED Halo Tails/Fogs,+
    -92 Formula Red NSX-Comptech H/E,K&N Intake, 2002+ rear valence, Zanardi Seats/Mats
    -06 Infiniti M35X, Advanced Tech, Premium- Rear DVD/Navi, Reclining Rear seats

  5. Member RollingInDubs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 23rd, 2003
    Location
    Mountain Iron, MN
    Posts
    3,028
    Cars
    2013 (Dodge) Ram 1500 SLT Quad Cab
    11-18-2012 10:19 AM #5
    The 6.2L in the Raptor is the only engine in the F150 lineup paired with the Hydraulic power steering system. All the other engines (Ecoboost included) are integrated with the Electric Power steering system. That being the case I remember someone in the know (who works in the industry) stating that Ford WILL NOT put the Ecoboost in the Raptor because it's not designed to be used with the Hydraulic steering setup.

    Take that information for what it's worth, but that's what I heard.

  6. Member CK98Beeetle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 19th, 2002
    Location
    Central IL
    Posts
    2,495
    Cars
    99 F-150 Flareside 4x4
    11-18-2012 10:28 AM #6
    Doesn't seem like a more powerful ecoboost would be worth the power loss for the few extra MPGs. I would say if you buy a Raptor, be prepared to fill it up. It's a fun toy and should be used that way.
    Jack Daniels kicked my ass again last night.

  7. Member 71DubBugBug's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 3rd, 2006
    Location
    Chicago
    Posts
    9,406
    Cars
    91 Audi D11 V8, 71 Super, 07 E320 Bluetec, 05.5 Jetta 2.5
    11-18-2012 10:35 AM #7
    Quote Originally Posted by RollingInDubs View Post
    The 6.2L in the Raptor is the only engine in the F150 lineup paired with the Hydraulic power steering system. All the other engines (Ecoboost included) are integrated with the Electric Power steering system. That being the case I remember someone in the know (who works in the industry) stating that Ford WILL NOT put the Ecoboost in the Raptor because it's not designed to be used with the Hydraulic steering setup.

    Take that information for what it's worth, but that's what I heard.
    hydraulic steering is better for off road and not as prone to failure off road?

    wonder if they will come out with an ecoboost v8 anytime soon

  8. 11-18-2012 11:11 AM #8
    we have a customer with a tuned ecoboost, downpipes back exhaust and livernoise tune goddam truck runs a 12.6

  9. Member Pool Runner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 16th, 2009
    Location
    Nor Cal
    Posts
    2,786
    Cars
    '13 WRX (sold) , '11 Outback (Sold) , '13 Outback 2.5i Limited SAP, '11 Ford F-150
    11-18-2012 11:29 AM #9
    Have you ever driven an F-150 with EcoBoost 3.5 engine? It is an amazing mill no doubt but it is Lexus quiet, sounds like an 80's V6 Camaro with a glass pack if you do anything to the exhaust. Also while the powerband is smooth,and the overall experience is fairly yawn inducing. There are great engines, and there are performance engines, the 3.5 Ecoboost is a great engine but it is not a high- performance engine.

    The Raptor really needs a big burly sounding V8, I don't want a truck like this to feel or sound like a Lexus LS even if it was faster or more powerful with the Ecoboost.

    That said I would buy an Expedition EL in a heartbeat if it offered the EcoBoost in that application instead of the old 3V 5.4 they are still using in it. I think Lincoln Navigator sales would spike if the SUV got the Ecoboost 3.5 too.
    Last edited by Pool Runner; 11-18-2012 at 11:57 AM.

  10. 11-18-2012 11:36 AM #10
    Maybe if there was a V8 ecoboost motor to drop in ...

  11. Senior Member AZGolf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 6th, 2000
    Location
    Phoenix area
    Posts
    21,213
    11-18-2012 11:45 AM #11
    Quote Originally Posted by callmedoc View Post
    Isn't this the kind of thing that Ford said causes bent frames? From the picture it's pretty clear it is catching a lot of air and I believe they said the truck isn't designed for anything that results in all 4 wheels leaving the ground at the same time. I'm all for catching air in trucks, but if this is what Ford says bends frames then it doesn't seem worth it.


  12. 11-18-2012 12:05 PM #12
    Quote Originally Posted by callmedoc View Post
    haha. I would NOT generalize like that. This is my good friend's modded raptor a few weeks ago....

    Just saying, I would bet there is a market for them.

  13. Member RollingInDubs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 23rd, 2003
    Location
    Mountain Iron, MN
    Posts
    3,028
    Cars
    2013 (Dodge) Ram 1500 SLT Quad Cab
    11-18-2012 12:20 PM #13
    Quote Originally Posted by 71DubBugBug View Post
    hydraulic steering is better for off road and not as prone to failure off road?

    wonder if they will come out with an ecoboost v8 anytime soon
    Pretty much. A lot more durable in severe service applications. That's why you don't see the electric steering system in the Super Duty Line.

    Word has it there is an ecoboost V8 in development. Whether it's intended for the trucks or the Mustang has yet to be determined.

  14. Member
    Join Date
    Aug 25th, 2005
    Location
    Praha
    Posts
    3,630
    Cars
    2004 RX-8
    11-18-2012 12:37 PM #14
    Quote Originally Posted by RafaGti View Post

    Should for offer this engine?
    ... oh FORD

    srsly thou, looks like potential for moarboost and offroad funz
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperGroove View Post
    "...you see an RX-8 has a rotary engine! Do you know what a rotary engine is? Well, the reason why I'm filling oil into my engine is...hello? where'd you go? It's injected into the combustion chamber and it LUBRICATES THE SEALS! IT LUBRICATES THE SEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALS"

  15. Senior Member Sporin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 17th, 1999
    Location
    Windsor, VT USA
    Posts
    23,545
    Cars
    '10 Prius - '96 Honda Accord
    11-18-2012 12:46 PM #15
    Raptor needs a big, loud V8.

  16. Member TurboWraith's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 4th, 2004
    Location
    Morton, IL
    Posts
    10,084
    Cars
    3 Hatch, DRZ400SM
    11-18-2012 01:23 PM #16
    Quote Originally Posted by AZGolf View Post
    Isn't this the kind of thing that Ford said causes bent frames? From the picture it's pretty clear it is catching a lot of air and I believe they said the truck isn't designed for anything that results in all 4 wheels leaving the ground at the same time. I'm all for catching air in trucks, but if this is what Ford says bends frames then it doesn't seem worth it.

    No, the frame damage was caused when the rear suspension ran out of travel from hitting multiple obstacles. IIRC, there was a video floating around somewhere - a Ford engineer explaining that the frame failure was more desirable than the alternative; a 'donkey kick', in which the truck could likely flip or roll.

  17. Member 2.0_Mazda's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 3rd, 2010
    Location
    Mtl, Quebec
    Posts
    1,922
    Cars
    Protegé
    11-18-2012 03:26 PM #17
    They should Eco boost the 6.2 V8 instead.

  18. Member Zyoid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 25th, 2008
    Location
    Hudsonville, MI
    Posts
    3,914
    Cars
    2012 VW Golf TDI
    11-18-2012 03:27 PM #18
    Diesel Raptor please!
    -Obama Sucks-

  19. Senior Member AZGolf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 6th, 2000
    Location
    Phoenix area
    Posts
    21,213
    11-18-2012 07:20 PM #19
    Quote Originally Posted by TurboWraith View Post
    No, the frame damage was caused when the rear suspension ran out of travel from hitting multiple obstacles. IIRC, there was a video floating around somewhere - a Ford engineer explaining that the frame failure was more desirable than the alternative; a 'donkey kick', in which the truck could likely flip or roll.
    The name of the picture is "Bottomingout.jpg". That seems pretty self-explanatory.

  20. Senior Member cougar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 24th, 1999
    Posts
    23,791
    11-18-2012 07:21 PM #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Shomegrown View Post
    **** no. In a Raptor, give me the biggest V8 you can fit...
    and also two turbochargers.
    Unpaid shill

    Quote Originally Posted by Rutledge View Post
    Well, then, I'm here to "ruin" the vortex for you. I'm sorry you hate fun.

  21. Member Ark6's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 14th, 2007
    Location
    Bay Area...kinda,CA
    Posts
    2,027
    Cars
    05 S2000
    11-18-2012 07:41 PM #21
    Quote Originally Posted by 71DubBugBug View Post

    wonder if they will come out with an ecoboost v8 anytime soon
    Yup. Based off the 5.0! It will make an appearance in the next gen navigator first.

    Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2
    Last edited by Ark6; 11-18-2012 at 07:46 PM.

  22. Member mckpat03's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 30th, 2012
    Location
    The center of PA
    Posts
    101
    Cars
    2010 Jetta TDI Cup
    11-18-2012 08:45 PM #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Ark6 View Post
    Yup. Based off the 5.0! It will make an appearance in the next gen navigator first.

    Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2
    It's already in the new Cobra Jet.
    - '10 Jetta TDI Cup - Malone Tuning Stg. 2, Rawtek Exhaust, and some other fancy stuff to fit in.

  23. Member TurboWraith's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 4th, 2004
    Location
    Morton, IL
    Posts
    10,084
    Cars
    3 Hatch, DRZ400SM
    11-18-2012 11:09 PM #23
    Quote Originally Posted by AZGolf View Post
    The name of the picture is "Bottomingout.jpg". That seems pretty self-explanatory.
    Yes, which on its own wasn't the end of the world, if I recall.

    The truck can certainly have all 4 tires airborne and land without frame damage. We've see countless videos of that being done.

  24. Member Mabe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 27th, 2002
    Location
    Upstate NY
    Posts
    6,193
    Cars
    08 Sierra - 02 Golf 1.8t - 08 MDX Sport
    11-18-2012 11:44 PM #24
    Rather than a Ecoboost Raptor I'd rather see a F150 ST. Regular Cab short bed, 2WD F150 Ecoboost, 4.55 LS Rear End. Lowered suspension, bigger sway bars and a mildly upgraded I/H/E and ecu program.
    08 GMC Sierra 5.3 Z71 - BOSS Plow
    08 Acura MDX Tech/Ent/Sport

  25. Member NoXenons's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 6th, 2012
    Posts
    2,734
    Cars
    87 Celebrity on 4's, em kay fwhore
    11-19-2012 12:11 AM #25

  26. Member phil123's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 13th, 2009
    Location
    92808
    Posts
    5,543
    11-19-2012 01:56 AM #26
    Quote Originally Posted by AZGolf View Post
    but if this is what Ford says bends frames then it doesn't seem worth it.
    The truck or the jumping
    2011 Golf TDI DSG | 2001 Cabrio VR-T | 1995 GTI VR6
    A2Resource |

    FS: Porsche Wintercults | MK3.5 Mirrors

+ Reply to Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts