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      01-12-2012 06:38 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by yz1337 View Post
      forgot to quote, was poking fun at ikey and zombie, fighter community babies
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      01-12-2012 07:24 PM #27
      If they can build and repair composite glider wings that will take the stresses shown in this pic then I don't think these repairs are as difficult as some seem to suggest. It's just a matter of new technology that needs new systems to handle it, doesn't mean it isn't just as good or possibly even better than other construction methods.




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      01-12-2012 07:34 PM #28
      To be fair to froggies, all wings for A380 are manufactured in England and then shipped to Toulouse for final assembly.
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      01-12-2012 08:57 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by yz1337 View Post
      forgot to quote, was poking fun at ikey and zombie, fighter community babies
      Lol I see.

      J-tim u are correct.

      Nztiguan:

      Stresses are different then deflection as shown in the picture of the glider. The stresses are much less in gliders than that in the a380 therefore allowing simpler repairs. The airline industry has beyond absurd standard which forces the airlines and companies to install rigorous repair specifications and methods. There are a number of fea analysis that are requires. Physically its not overly difficult but technically it was challenging.

      It's just a matter of new technology that needs new systems to handle it
      I dont agree. Composites have been around for more than thirty years in the industry, they just haven't been uses in this magnitude.
      Its the issue with the area of unknown which is the unpredictivity cfrp. The test results have a large range of results comparing them to aluminum especially A or B basis.
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      01-12-2012 09:31 PM #30
      To anyone interested, there is a BBC series, called "How to Build:". One of the episodes is called "A Super-Jumbo Wing", where it goes into details on how an A380 wing is built, fitted and tested.

      Fascinating stuff.
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      01-12-2012 10:04 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by NZTIGUAN View Post
      If they can build and repair composite glider wings that will take the stresses shown in this pic then I don't think these repairs are as difficult as some seem to suggest. It's just a matter of new technology that needs new systems to handle it, doesn't mean it isn't just as good or possibly even better than other construction methods.




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      01-12-2012 10:05 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by J-Tim View Post
      To be fair to froggies, all wings for A380 are manufactured in England and then shipped to Toulouse for final assembly.
      The french must have installed the wing wrong
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      01-13-2012 08:51 AM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by J-Tim View Post
      To be fair to froggies, all wings for A380 are manufactured in England and then shipped to Toulouse for final assembly.
      But didn't the Froggies design it?

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      01-13-2012 08:56 AM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by Zombiee313 View Post
      Who would want to fly a plane with no engines??

      I bet those same people would jump out of a perfectly good airplane too huh?

      Haha, I have my glider's license as well as my private license and let me tell you it is certainly an awesome experience being up there! No vibrations, a little wisp from the air rushing by but it is so peaceful and so much fun you can stay up for hours if you know what you are doing!

      And no, never have been sky diving.
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      01-13-2012 02:23 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by Anile_eight View Post
      Haha, I have my glider's license as well as my private license and let me tell you it is certainly an awesome experience being up there! No vibrations, a little wisp from the air rushing by but it is so peaceful and so much fun you can stay up for hours if you know what you are doing!

      And no, never have been sky diving.
      I was joking when I was making fun of gliders.

      My uncle has been flying gliders for years and years and years.... he used to do competitions also... no real idea how you can do that but yeah.

      My dad and I went and checked out a two seater glider for his club to buy (out in California) and I have always wanted to go up in it but I just haven't. He lives in Texas and I live in California.
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      01-14-2012 01:39 AM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by Ikey3125 View Post
      But didn't the Froggies design it?
      No, this is a British design. Midlands at its best.
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      01-14-2012 09:42 PM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by J-Tim View Post
      No, this is a British design. Midlands at its best.
      Well that explains everything.

    13. 01-15-2012 11:08 AM #38
      Just watched "how to build a satellite". Great show. I'll look up the wing episode.

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      01-15-2012 04:30 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by J-Tim View Post
      No, this is a British design. Midlands at its best.
      I will no longer blame the French then....

      I will now blame the French-Canadians
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      01-16-2012 09:20 AM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by Zombiee313 View Post
      I will no longer blame the French then....

      I will now blame the French-Canadians
      lol... See I find that somewhat comical as i'm from Ontario... but if you are not from Quebec.... You really don't like Quebec so I give you a
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      01-16-2012 01:21 PM #41
      see even Canadians hate Quebecois
      Quote Originally Posted by Elbows View Post
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    17. 01-19-2012 09:04 AM #42
      And more cracks in so-called "rib feet" have been found in A380 wings during routine inspections. If they're finding all this stuff after 2 years I wonder what will be broken after 10!

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      01-19-2012 01:29 PM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by joness0154 View Post
      If they're finding all this stuff after 2 years I wonder what will be broken after 10!
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      01-19-2012 07:36 PM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by ATL_Av8r View Post
      purchase contracts.....insurance policies.....leases......
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      and you have your fog |ights on
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      02-05-2012 03:06 PM #46
      Now I'm not an aerospace engineer but I am an engineer at a contractor that builds the machines that make the 787 wings so I've heard some inside discussion. The cracking is on some composite brackets and is initially damaged during manufacturing because like stated earlier, tolerances on composites are harder to meet so the brackets are stressed too much during installation.

      I'm currently helping design the machine that will rivet the new (aluminim) 767 spars together.

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      02-08-2012 10:12 AM #47
      I see that Qantas has grounded all of its '380s due to a bunch of other cracks recently discovered on the doggone things. Is this airplane a crapwagon??
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    23. 02-08-2012 02:22 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by Gern_Blanston View Post
      I see that Qantas has grounded all of its '380s due to a bunch of other cracks recently discovered on the doggone things. Is this airplane a crapwagon??
      I can't find anywhere that says Qantas grounded them all (I know they grounded 1 a few days ago) but yeah, these planes seem like a crapwagon.

      Uncontained engine failure, wing cracks, etc.

      I know I will avoid flying on one until they really figure out what's going on.

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      02-08-2012 03:31 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by Gern_Blanston View Post
      I see that Qantas has grounded all of its '380s due to a bunch of other cracks recently discovered on the doggone things. Is this airplane a crapwagon??

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      02-08-2012 03:34 PM #50
      And another reason why the USAF is going with the Boeing tanker instead of the Airbus...thank god...

      I have a feeling if we did go with the Airbus, it would need all metric tools...which would be nice, being means new tools for us mechanics...

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