Well that explains everything.Originally Posted by J-Tim
No, this is a British design. Midlands at its best.
#36
No, this is a British design. Midlands at its best.
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#37
Well that explains everything.No, this is a British design. Midlands at its best.
#38
Just watched "how to build a satellite". Great show. I'll look up the wing episode.
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#39
I will no longer blame the French then....No, this is a British design. Midlands at its best.
I will now blame the French-Canadians
#40
lol... See I find that somewhat comical as i'm from Ontario... but if you are not from Quebec.... You really don't like Quebec so I give you aI will no longer blame the French then....
I will now blame the French-Canadians
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#41
see even Canadians hate Quebecois
#42
And more cracks in so-called "rib feet" have been found in A380 wings during routine inspections. If they're finding all this stuff after 2 years I wonder what will be broken after 10!
#43
purchase contracts.....insurance policies.....leases......If they're finding all this stuff after 2 years I wonder what will be broken after 10!
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#44
You're on a roll lately....haha
#45
747-8s...
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#46
Now I'm not an aerospace engineer but I am an engineer at a contractor that builds the machines that make the 787 wings so I've heard some inside discussion. The cracking is on some composite brackets and is initially damaged during manufacturing because like stated earlier, tolerances on composites are harder to meet so the brackets are stressed too much during installation.
I'm currently helping design the machine that will rivet the new (aluminim) 767 spars together.
#47
I see that Qantas has grounded all of its '380s due to a bunch of other cracks recently discovered on the doggone things. Is this airplane a crapwagon??
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#48
I can't find anywhere that says Qantas grounded them all (I know they grounded 1 a few days ago) but yeah, these planes seem like a crapwagon.
Uncontained engine failure, wing cracks, etc.
I know I will avoid flying on one until they really figure out what's going on.
#49
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#50
And another reason why the USAF is going with the Boeing tanker instead of the Airbus...thank god...
I have a feeling if we did go with the Airbus, it would need all metric tools...which would be nice, being means new tools for us mechanics...
#51
Looks like I misread the original article and there is only one grounded.
For now.
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#52
It was on the news here today that all 380's are being inspected within the next 2 weeks and that there's a "fix" for the issue. Supposedly it's a metal bracket that's cracking ?? Also it's deemed not to be a safety issue or they "would" have to ground them.
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#53
Both Qantas (10) and Singapore (14) have temporarily grounded their fleets for inspections.
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#54
All the wings are made in North Wales as I know of people on the forums who work there.
Now the realisation that they should of stuck to mining and sheep farming
#55
EASA thinks it is a safety issue. Regardless if it is or not, it's probably not a good problem to have.
"The directive issued by the European Aviation Safety Agency on Jan. 20 required all planes that had flown more than 1,800 trips to be checked within four days for the “type two” cracks.
“This condition, if not detected and corrected, could potentially affect the structural integrity of the airplane,” the safety organization said in the order."
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...cks-found.html
#56
Remember, those are some big wings, stress on the metal is quite high especially during take off. When Boeing and Airbus do stress tested on the wings they do it in a clean and dry facility. They don't include water, fuel, deicing ....
It is the first time someone built an airplane that big therefore mistakes are expected. But hey, there have been few major cracks on airplanes ...
#57
That was just the first "convertible" passenger jet wasn't it
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#58
To be fair, this frame has had the most hours compared to any other 737 at the time. That, plus at least 5 take-offs per day.It is the first time someone built an airplane that big therefore mistakes are expected. But hey, there have been few major cracks on airplanes ...
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#59
Airbus A380 tests showed the plane vibrates when it flies near 690 miles per hour.
#60
Fun fact....My dad flew with Capt. Schornstheimer in the Air ForceRemember, those are some big wings, stress on the metal is quite high especially during take off. When Boeing and Airbus do stress tested on the wings they do it in a clean and dry facility. They don't include water, fuel, deicing ....
It is the first time someone built an airplane that big therefore mistakes are expected. But hey, there have been few major cracks on airplanes ...
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#61
Pleeeeease kill yourself, of confine yourself to OT.
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#62
Exactly. I for one think the trade winds would feel lovely at speed.That was just the first "convertible" passenger jet wasn't it
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#63
Just rode on a Singapore A380. Nice rig. Only mild threat of doom.
#64
Wow. Why all the juvenile Airbus hate? Boeing builds great planes. Airbus builds great planes. Why's it got to be one or the other? Boeing has had lots of problems with its planes too over the years. You work to fix them and move on. You don't wish for the demise of one company or the other. Incredibly skilled and talented work for each. I wouldn't want to see any of those people out of a job. The economy has shown there's plenty of room for both organizations to exist in the world.
#65
Non-technical:
- Americans are irrationally anti-French. Doesn't matter that major parts and subsystems of Airbus' are built in the UK or Germany, Airbus is perceived as a 'French' company.
- With McDonnell-Douglas and Lockheed no longer in the airliner business, any 'win' in terms of sales for either Airbus or Boeing is seen as taking food out of the mouths of children of the workers of the other company. (if X didn't buy A320s, they'd buy 737s instead, prosperity in Toulouse = unemployment in Seattle).
- Consider both the above in the current political climate in the US.
Technical:
- People don't understand the 'laws' (flight control modes) of the Airbus fly-by-wire system, and repeat misinformation about risks of computer malfunctions/limitations. (There are FBW Boeings, too, and Airbus has a LOT more experience with it than Boeing does.)
- I've heard pilots repeating misinformation that Airbus "...tails fall off..."
- I've heard pilots repeating misinformation that Airbus are made of thinner metal, and therefore have a life limit, and other aircraft do not have one (false, all transport category aircraft > 75,000lbs MGTOW have a design life limit)
- Anecdotally, Boeings are "easy to work on", "made to be worked on, with easy access to maintenance areas" and Airbus "require complicated disassembly for routine maintenance access".
If you take any two competing aircraft from those companies, you'll be able to come up with some ways in which one is better, or the other is better. Airbus products are not dropping out of the sky on a regular basis, any more than Boeings are. Every time someone starts going on about some Airbus issue, I start talking about rudder hard-overs on 737s.
I like both companies for different things. The 787 has an awesome cockpit, I'm curious to see how the airframe holds up in service, and how repairs will be done. I wish there were more 747-8i sales against the A380, but I'd rather have a job piloting an A320 than a 737.
#66
Fo'real? even cars manufactured by American brands (GM, Chrysler) are using Metric stuff since long time ago. or maybe the USAF are ordering planes with US measure units on purpose?
#68
Well you got to realize that the USAF has millions of dollars in tools already, and if suddenly we switch to an aircraft that is all metric, we have millions of dollars in tools that are useless. Gotta realize the Airbus tanker is replacing KC-135s, which the last one was built in 1964...and in 1964, we were using standard size hardware...Fo'real? even cars manufactured by American brands (GM, Chrysler) are using Metric stuff since long time ago. or maybe the USAF are ordering planes with US measure units on purpose?
Otherwise if we get a new jet, say the airbus, and it uses metric, not only are we buying millions of dollars in aircraft, but for each aircraft, we'll need about $5000 in new tools. And no one thinks of this when they look at the cost of an aircraft.
#69
At some point though, would it be a good idea to move to metric.
#70
but the US tried it...and it didn't work...I know that metric is easier...like what is a socket that is a size smaller than a 17mm...oh 16mm...and whats one that is a size smaller than 5/8ths? ummm 9/16ths...so much fun doing fractions...in the cold, and wind, and rain or snow...
Again, the cost of it just isn't gonna help...and with the US budget crisis, I doubt I'll see a new tanker before I retire...
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