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      06-14-2011 03:34 PM #1
      It's surprisingly good looking, for a Chrysler at least... Yes, it looks better in person
      It has got a little Maserati in it too (from a distance)...

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      06-14-2011 03:35 PM #2
      i dunno about maserati, though the badge comes close to a blatant copy of the aston martin logo...
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      06-14-2011 03:36 PM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by EKaru View Post
      It's surprisingly good looking, for a Chrysler at least... Yes, it looks better in person
      It has got a little Maserati in it too (from a distance)...

      I've always liked the Sebring / 200 convertibles. I think the overhaul was a great job!

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      06-14-2011 03:37 PM #4
      I've seen the convertible and sedan and was disappoint. Maybe it's a complement to Chrysler's marketing firm, but they look good in pictures/emenim commercial, but in real life all I see is a facelifted Sebring.


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      06-14-2011 03:39 PM #5
      ^ I personally think it's a huge improvement over the Sebring....
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      06-14-2011 03:49 PM #6
      I saw a few at the dealership a few weeks ago.
      I was rather impressed with the overall look and 'feel' of the new offerings, all over the lot.
      Things are starting to turn around for Chrysler I hope.

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      06-14-2011 03:54 PM #7
      I hope it drives better than the Avenger rental i have right now.

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      06-14-2011 03:54 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by EKaru View Post
      ^ I personally think it's a huge improvement over the Sebring....
      Oh I agree it's a very good face lift. When they re-named it 200, I was expecting a totally new car and was disappointed. Sorry, I've spent too much time in Sebring rentals...it's a very bad taste that's hard to get out of your mouth.

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      06-14-2011 03:56 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by EKaru View Post
      The thing I just hate - and the 200 is not the only one to do something like this - is that wee, pointless piece of red plastic at the top on each end of the chrome bar that bisects the decklid. IF that were just metal, the taillights would be much more defined and expensive-looking. The little taillight bits just look cheap, fussy, and unnecessary.
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      06-14-2011 03:57 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by vrsexxy_GTI View Post
      I hope it drives better than the Avenger rental i have right now.
      The V6 Sebring Convertible has an electronically-limited top speed of ~115mph indicated. I can vouch for it.

      It drives pretty decently, too.
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      06-14-2011 03:59 PM #11
      saw one sunday. thought it looked pretty good. specially from the rear
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      06-14-2011 04:16 PM #12
      A buddy of mine is in the market for a new car and test drove one a few days ago. He was really impressed at how well it drove.

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      06-14-2011 04:18 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by renegadeofpunk03 View Post
      i dunno about maserati, though the badge comes close to a blatant copy of the aston martin logo...
      IDK.. Chrysler has a long history too.
      This badge seems like an evolution of the "vintage" one they started using 16 years ago.

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      06-14-2011 04:27 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      IDK.. Chrysler has a long history too.
      This badge seems like an evolution of the "vintage" one they started using 16 years ago.
      yeah i know this isn't the first badge like this, it just seems particularly similar since they've written the brand name name on the badge. FWIW, aston martin's logo has been wings-shaped for the better part of 80 years.
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      06-14-2011 04:28 PM #15
      but this angle kinda bothers me a little. there is something odd about the roofline and c pillar.

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      06-14-2011 04:33 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by Bones_Jones View Post
      but this angle kinda bothers me a little. there is something odd about the roofline and c pillar.
      Unfortunately you can't change the profile of the Sebring in a face lift. I fully expect Chrysler to remedy the god-awful roofline of the upcoming all new Chrysler 200.

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      06-14-2011 04:38 PM #17
      accord has a similar roofline, but at least C pillar asn't as thick and it has longer ass to make it look bit more balanced than 200. and Hoffmeister kink does help.

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      06-14-2011 05:37 PM #18
      On a trip to D.C. recently, I rented a 200 S sedan from Enterprise and was shocked how good this car was!

      Maybe I expected a sheetcan but there was not much to complain about. The trans hunted a bit, the ride over huge bumps was a bit jarring but that's about it. I did a watch timed 0-60 time of less than 7 seconds. The car was very quiet and rode great. Of course you're not going to set an auto-x records in it but with a better set of tires it wouldn't be bad at all. The sound system sounded very good, I just plugged my thumb drive in and instant tunes! Other than the aforementioned c-piller awkwardness, the styling was just fine.

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      06-14-2011 06:55 PM #19
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      06-14-2011 06:58 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by EKaru View Post
      It's surprisingly good looking, for a Chrysler at least... Yes, it looks better in person
      It has got a little Maserati in it too (from a distance)...

      Does anyone else see a hint of 1 series?

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      06-14-2011 06:59 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by duke of chucchinchilla View Post
      I've seen the convertible and sedan and was disappoint. Maybe it's a complement to Chrysler's marketing firm, but they look good in pictures/emenim commercial, but in real life all I see is a facelifted Sebring.
      I was just reading Jamie Kitman's column in Automobile Magazine and he too questioned what was the point of letting the faux rapper run around in the 200 when they have the more luxurious 300? Chrysler did do a brilliant job in that commercial when it comes to fooling you with its looks.

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      06-14-2011 07:18 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by VadGTI View Post
      Does anyone else see a hint of 1 series?


      oh absolutely, the rear tires are in the same spot, so is the trunk deck. and they BOTH have red tail lights! Vad you've been drinking again!

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      06-14-2011 07:25 PM #23
      I've been seeing a lot actually. They're popping up everywhere around DFW. Front & rear look like huge improvements but that side profile still gets me.

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      06-14-2011 07:27 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by EKaru View Post
      ^ I personally think it's a huge improvement over the Sebring....
      I didn't think they could have made such a decent looking car out of that turd of a Sebring. The short decklid is tough to get over though.
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      06-14-2011 07:57 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by VadGTI View Post
      Does anyone else see a hint of 1 series?

      I dunno what your on, but the rear reminds me of the Optima/XF.




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      06-14-2011 07:59 PM #26
      ^^ there is a lot of resemblance with the taillight sectioned by the chrome pieces
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    27. 06-14-2011 08:49 PM #27
      Saw one up and close the other day on my way home - the rear didn't really strike me as anything special but I like the car as a whole - certainly a much better effort than the outgoing Sebring.

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      06-14-2011 09:49 PM #28
      Agreed. When they first showed photos, I thought it was terrible, but it's far better in person.

      Considering what they had to work with, I think Chrysler/Fiat did one hell of a good job with the 200. A huge improvement in terms of quality, style, and image. Of course it isn't perfect — they still had to work with the existing Sebring — but I was very impressed.

      Quote Originally Posted by Turbiodiesel! View Post
      The thing I just hate - and the 200 is not the only one to do something like this - is that wee, pointless piece of red plastic at the top on each end of the chrome bar that bisects the decklid. IF that were just metal, the taillights would be much more defined and expensive-looking. The little taillight bits just look cheap, fussy, and unnecessary.
      I agree absolutely. I think that detail is far better integrated on the 200 than on some of the other offenders, and the emphasis for me would be on "fussy" rather than "cheap", but I think I'd still like it better without.

      Quote Originally Posted by VadGTI View Post
      Does anyone else see a hint of 1 series?

      I don't see any elements that translate, but in terms of character I do see similarities. I have no idea what I mean by that, but the character is similar.
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      06-14-2011 10:03 PM #29
      Just got a new convertible in the local enterprise fleet. Its looks pretty good, especially in black. Its still the rental spec 4 cylinder, but its MUCH improved over the Sebring in almost every way. They worked the exaust system a little bit, KINDA sounds a little like a Volvo 5 cylinder now. Not bad for a base 4 cylinder, and way better then the agricultural sound it made before.

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      06-15-2011 10:48 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by dieselraver View Post
      oh absolutely, the rear tires are in the same spot, so is the trunk deck. and they BOTH have red tail lights! Vad you've been drinking again!
      Quote Originally Posted by omoderncultureo View Post
      I dunno what your on, but the rear reminds me of the Optima/XF.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Entwerfer des Audis View Post
      I don't see any elements that translate, but in terms of character I do see similarities. I have no idea what I mean by that, but the character is similar.
      ^^^^ and that is what I meant. There's nothing you can quite point your finger at but it all comes together in a similar way.
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      06-15-2011 10:56 PM #31
      They must have been reading my posts on here because the main thing they fixed on the outside was lowering the bumper to hide that unsightly silvery thing protecting the gas tank. Obviously this , albeit successful, facelift is just a stop gap measure, much like the last Focus, until they make a ground up replacement for it.
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      It's okay.

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      06-16-2011 08:24 AM #33
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      06-16-2011 09:19 AM #34
      Folowed one in traffic the other day. I was impressed with how little they had to change to make it a completely modern mid-size sedan. Not the best out there, but not the worst anymore, either, and nothing that would really alienate the average buyer, other than the badge.
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      06-16-2011 09:31 AM #35
      The convertible looks the best of the two... Personally I think it looks very well done/expensive from the back. From the side (the convertible is again better, because they could change the roofline) the 200 still has the Sebring's horrible greenhouse.

      The greenhouse was impossible to change. Considering all new interior, engine/transmission, styling, suspension etc... it's a very good, if not great facelift. They are an elegant looking car from the front and back... shame about the side.

      Quote Originally Posted by Turbiodiesel! View Post
      The thing I just hate - and the 200 is not the only one to do something like this - is that wee, pointless piece of red plastic at the top on each end of the chrome bar that bisects the decklid. IF that were just metal, the taillights would be much more defined and expensive-looking. The little taillight bits just look cheap, fussy, and unnecessary.
      You'd complain less if the (mandatory) reflectors were debossed into the bumper like on some other cars? Personally I think this is a decent application. The extension of the tail-lamp line is obvious, helps it make it look complete... if only a little fussy. Reflectors in jeweled taillamps don't really work. You see a very obvious section where there is a grid of prisms and a reflector behind them.

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