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    View Poll Results: BT users. How is you idle?

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    1. Member hootyburra's Avatar
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      03-31-2011 01:22 PM #1
      Sorry for my spelling.

      Please list your
      Tune:
      Fueling:
      Maf/Mafless:
      Emissions delete:
      Distance of o2 from turbo:
      Stock TB/ IM:
      Any tweaks through lemmiwinks/unisettings

      Edit, Great info coming in so far.
      The reason behind this is to try and clear up a few suspicions.
      One of the main ones being the dekka 630's spray pattern doesn't match up with our cars.
      I have read numerous reports of people switching to genesis 550's @ 4bar and everything being better... I have also read of this doing nothing.

      Please post if you are on a base tune or maestro or a custom tune...
      If the idle was rough what corrections you made.

      Last edited by hootyburra; 03-31-2011 at 04:00 PM.
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      03-31-2011 01:42 PM #2
      Please list your
      Tune: Eurodyne 630cc Mafless File
      Fueling: 630cc Siemens Injectors (ECS spacers)
      Maf/Mafless: Mafless
      Emissions delete:Cat delete, all emissions rail is intact minus the n249 bypass
      Distance of o2 from turbo: 20 inches (A/F Gauge)
      Stock TB/ IM: All stock, including motor
      Any tweaks through lemmiwinks/unisettings: No tweaks in here, still looking at some Maestro stuff.
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      03-31-2011 02:09 PM #3
      Tune: Maestro. Base 630 file
      Fueling: Siemens 80# injectors and 044 Bosch intank
      Maf/Mafless: Mafless
      Emissions delete: everything.
      Distance of o2 from turbo: <16in
      Stock TB/ IM: yes
      Any tweaks through lemmiwinks/unisettings: none.

      Used Maestro to adjust the injector constant and some O2 corrections
      Last edited by DanA4; 03-31-2011 at 03:37 PM.

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      03-31-2011 02:39 PM #4
      Smooth until my oil blowby kills my o2 sensor, then it's rough till I fix it.

      Please list your
      Tune: Unitronic 630cc
      Fueling: Siemmens 630cc, 3bar fpr, stock pump
      Maf/Mafless: Mafless
      Emissions delete: Yes
      Distance of o2 from turbo: Stock location so ~30"?
      Stock TB/ IM: Stock
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    5. 03-31-2011 02:51 PM #5
      Tune: Eurodyne 630cc Mafless File
      Fueling: 630cc Siemens Injectors
      Maf/Mafless: Mafless
      Emissions delete:Full deletes, evap plugged in and AWP tensioner installed in AEB head
      Distance of o2 from turbo: 20 inches (Primary O2 Sensor)
      TB/ IM: RMR big port w/ 70mm TB
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      03-31-2011 02:52 PM #6
      2000 GTI 1.8T
      Tune: Unitronic 630cc
      Fueling: Siemens Deka 630cc, 4bar FPR, APR drop in fuel pump
      Maf/Mafless: Mafless
      Emissions delete: Deleted
      Distance of o2 from turbo: about a foot
      Stock TB/ IM: Yes/ TT IM (I believe it flows the same though)
      Any tweaks through Unisettings: To get my idle smoother, I had to raise up the idle closer to 1k rpms. I think through vag-com it says i'm at about 920-960 rpms.

      Also I do have an exhaust leak right before my main 02, so after I get that fixed this week, I will try and lower my idle back down while keeping a smooth idle.
      Last edited by Boosted96GSX; 03-31-2011 at 02:56 PM.

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      03-31-2011 03:09 PM #7
      Rough idle but have since fixed. Turned out the car doesn't like the siemens 630cc's. Switched to genesis 550cc and 4bar FPR and it's smooth like stock.

      Please list your
      Tune: unitronic 630 file
      Fueling:genesis 550's with 4bar FPR
      Maf/Mafless: mafless
      Emissions delete: everything deleted
      Distance of o2 from turbo: not sure
      Stock TB/ IM: SEM intake manifold
      Any tweaks through lemmiwinks/unisettings: no tweaks

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      03-31-2011 03:33 PM #8
      Please list your

      Tune: Eurodyne 870cc
      Fueling:870cc inj
      Maf/Mafless:Maffless
      Emissions delete:Yes but all resistored
      Distance of o2 from turbo:Factory distance
      Stock TB/ IM: Stock for now have got SEM and 70mm waiting to install this summer
      Any tweaks through lemmiwinks/unisettings Nope, just base tune for now


      Once I get my car back together will play with Maestro a bit to see if I can get idle better, all the above info was for last summer, things will be better hopefully this summer since I plan on driving to NY to visit Al and have him help me out and show me a few things with Maestro
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      03-31-2011 05:35 PM #9
      Please list your

      Tune: Eurodyne 630cc
      Fueling:siemens 630cc
      Maf/Mafless:MAFLESS
      Emissions delete:Yes
      Distance of o2 from turbo:Factory distance
      Stock TB/ IM: yes
      Any tweaks through lemmiwinks/unisettings Nope, just base tune

      only problem is rough idle
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      03-31-2011 05:45 PM #10
      Tune: uni 630cc
      Fueling: 630cc
      Maf/Mafless:mafless
      Emissions delete:ALL
      Distance of o2 from turbo:26 inches
      Stock TB/ IM:SEM/80mm
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      03-31-2011 05:47 PM #11
      best tweak for idle with SEM and large tb is go down to torque whatever..and add +1 or 2..helps alot..smooths it out a bit..
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    12. 03-31-2011 06:09 PM #12
      Tune: Motec, Self steady state tuned
      Fueling: Low Imp RC Eng 1400cc (used to have the deka 630's and didn't have a prob
      Maf/Mafless: Mafless
      Emissions delete:No emissions hardware but flanged exhaust to swap in cat quickly
      Distance of o2 from turbo: 24 inches
      Stock TB/ IM: Stock Throttlebody
      Any tweaks through lemmiwinks/unisettings: No limmiwinks
      Can idle down to around 400 rpms pretty nicely, but the VF mounts make it shake like crazy.

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      03-31-2011 06:11 PM #13
      Tune: Uni 630cc, for CAMS, intake mani & RS4 throttle
      Fueling: 630cc Siemens Injectors
      Maf/Mafless: MAF
      Emissions delete:SAI delete, CAT installed
      Distance of o2 from turbo: stock location + ~ 25"
      Stock TB/ IM: RS4 throttle, 007 mani
      Any tweaks through lemmiwinks/unisettings: None

      I had the occasional lumpy idle, but for the most part it runs fine. The lumpyness feels like a minor leak in the intake tract (although I've done plenty of pressure tests to rule that out).

      I wouldn't be surprised if the 630 Siemens are a bad spray match for our cars, but I've yet to see another 630cc injector suggested that's better.
      stock turbo 1.8t.. damn 2-year CA smog.. :/

    14. 03-31-2011 06:14 PM #14
      Ive been wanting to ask this question. So instead of making a new thread I thought I'd ask in here.. I have a rough idle and my vac is at -19. when i rev it up 100-200 rpm the idle is fine and vac is -23. My cold start ups are sometimes a b**** also.


      Tune: uni 630cc
      Fueling: siemens 630cc
      Maf/mafless: mafless
      Emissions delete: everything
      Distance of o2 from turbo: it's the cts kit, I'm not to sure,
      TB/IM: stock tb, abd intake manifold
      GTX2867r on 35psi.

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      03-31-2011 07:27 PM #15
      Tune: Eurodyne 630cc Mafless File
      Fueling: 630cc Siemens Injectors, stock fuel pump (its a 225TTQC)
      Maf/Mafless: Mafless
      Emissions delete: no cats, all the deletes emission-wise
      Distance of o2 from turbo: factory
      Stock TB/ IM: stock
      Any tweaks through lemmiwinks/unisettings: base Maestro with a few degrees of timing added

      had uni idle was teeerrrrrible, switched to maestro idles well sometime when idling for a long light or for a good time it jumps but corrects itself s

    16. 03-31-2011 09:38 PM #16
      Idle smooth

      Tune: Revo Stage 3 running with BWS256
      Fueling: 550cc Genesis Injectors, with Bosch Inline Pump
      Maf/Mafless: Maf
      Emissions delete: no cats, 3" wide open
      Distance of o2 from turbo: 4 inches
      Stock TB/ IM: stock

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      03-31-2011 10:20 PM #17
      let me put more details in mine.

      Tune: uni 630cc base file for 30r with 80mm tb
      Fueling: 630cc
      Maf/Mafless:mafless
      Emissions delete:ALL
      Distance of o2 from turbo:25 inches
      Stock TB/ IM:SEM/80mm


      i have a built and worked AEB head...i also have 3651 cams paired with my port matched SEM/80mm tb. 3071r with port matched treadstone manifold.

      no issues with idle from day one. as i added sem, cams,head,etc it got better..which i thought was impossible..now it just purrrssssss..it was liek stock before now you can tell it's all pissed off. i am currently on the 3 year old basetune, no tweaks
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      04-01-2011 11:12 AM #18
      Great info so far
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      04-01-2011 01:34 PM #19
      Tune: 630cc Unitronic circa April 2009
      Fueling: 630cc Siemens/Deka
      Maf/Mafless: MAFless
      Emissions delete: Secondary Air/EVAP/Standard PCV
      Distance of o2 from turbo: Normal placement in the 2nd piece of ATP downpipe (~15")
      Stock TB/ IM: Stock TB/IM
      Any tweaks through lemmiwinks/unisettings: None so far...

      All emissions deletes are resistored, so fuel adaptation is retained. Idles @900rpm with a hiccup every 30 seconds...sometimes experience rough idle in HOT weather/traffic. Cold starts are perfect and car runs flawless otherwise.
      Last edited by BlancoNino; 04-01-2011 at 01:37 PM.

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      04-01-2011 09:14 PM #20
      What about part throttle driving? Is it smooth or jerky... best way I can describe is the a/f gauge goes back and forth across the spectrum and you can feel some kind of stutter in the car..
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      04-01-2011 09:41 PM #21
      occasional jerk if i let off after a part throttle spool cold, otherwise no hesitation at all cruising at half throttle.

    22. 04-02-2011 10:45 AM #22
      Got a turbo XS Mbc and part throttle is very smooth.
      GTX2867r on 35psi.

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      04-02-2011 11:19 AM #23
      Going to be modifying and testing some EV14 (Bosch 550) injectors for these cars. The injectors are way more advanced and of a higher quality then the usual 630cc Siemens Dekas. Every single setup I've used these on, its butter stock-like. They can be had in 650, 750 and 910/1000cc as of now w/ the appropriate hardware for a direct swap. Even a 996TT w/ Maestro using the bigger set actually idles better then stock. From what I've seen, the quality on the Deka injectors are somewhat questionable
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      04-02-2011 12:11 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by AL@PagParts.com View Post
      Going to be modifying and testing some EV14 (Bosch 550) injectors for these cars. The injectors are way more advanced and of a higher quality then the usual 630cc Siemens Dekas. Every single setup I've used these on, its butter stock-like. They can be had in 650, 750 and 910/1000cc as of now w/ the appropriate hardware for a direct swap. Even a 996TT w/ Maestro using the bigger set actually idles better then stock. From what I've seen, the quality on the Deka injectors are somewhat questionable
      Thank you for the feedback. And insight.
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      04-02-2011 12:42 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by AL@PagParts.com View Post
      Going to be modifying and testing some EV14 (Bosch 550) injectors for these cars. The injectors are way more advanced and of a higher quality then the usual 630cc Siemens Dekas. Every single setup I've used these on, its butter stock-like. They can be had in 650, 750 and 910/1000cc as of now w/ the appropriate hardware for a direct swap. Even a 996TT w/ Maestro using the bigger set actually idles better then stock. From what I've seen, the quality on the Deka injectors are somewhat questionable
      +1 good insight & info
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      04-02-2011 01:04 PM #26
      Tune: reflex tuning obd1 conversion kit, c2 motorsports chip
      Fueling: 440cc green tops
      Maf/Mafless:maf
      Emissions delete:ALL
      Distance of o2 from turbo:guessing at least 24 inches
      Stock TB/IM: stock IM/obd1 2.0l throttle body
      turbo setup: Cts/kinetic turbo kit. t3/t4 50 trim .63ar
      Its only been a couple weeks since Ive gone bt, but the car has ran an idled smooth since the first time it was started back up. Once I get rods done Im switching to obd2 and 630cc.
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      04-02-2011 01:25 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by AL@PagParts.com View Post
      Going to be modifying and testing some EV14 (Bosch 550) injectors for these cars. The injectors are way more advanced and of a higher quality then the usual 630cc Siemens Dekas. Every single setup I've used these on, its butter stock-like. They can be had in 650, 750 and 910/1000cc as of now w/ the appropriate hardware for a direct swap. Even a 996TT w/ Maestro using the bigger set actually idles better then stock. From what I've seen, the quality on the Deka injectors are somewhat questionable
      thanks! i guess i better start saving for new injectors will i have to get my ecu reflashed again?
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      04-02-2011 05:43 PM #28
      also on page 9 of http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...1#post70838994 thread 2 people have changed injectors and the problem still exists... so what happens when/if i buy the new bosch injectors and the problem is still there? i have a weird feeling new injectors will not fix the problem and i will be out of an extra 250-275 on top of whats already been lost on fixin stuff that wasnt broken like i said before i have seen the 630cc's run in everybody else's car but mine.
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    29. 04-02-2011 06:57 PM #29
      Bumping up my idle torque to 3 or 4 in Maestro's really cleaned my idle up. I got my exhaust leaks under control several weeks ago, but I'm only really getting to play with Maestro more now.
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      04-02-2011 10:58 PM #30
      Tune: Revo stage 3
      Fueling: 550cc injectors / cis audi fp
      Maf/Mafless: maf
      Emissions delete: no airpump etc
      Distance of o2 from turbo: right before cat
      Stock TB/ IM: yes

      very smooth idle

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      04-03-2011 07:00 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by screwball View Post
      Bumping up my idle torque to 3 or 4 in Maestro's really cleaned my idle up. I got my exhaust leaks under control several weeks ago, but I'm only really getting to play with Maestro more now.
      Going to change the torque in uni-settings and see what happens
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      04-03-2011 07:03 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by hootyburra View Post
      Going to change the torque in uni-settings and see what happens
      10-4 i dont have unisettings
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      04-03-2011 08:47 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by Big_Tom View Post
      10-4 i dont have unisettings
      You can download it for free just google it. Connect with the cable you use for vag cam
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      2001 Jetta 1.8 BT
      04-03-2011 09:19 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by Big_Tom View Post
      10-4 i dont have unisettings
      Lemme know if you cant find it, i can email it to ya
      GT3071r w/ Eurodyne 630cc Mafless File / Siemens 630cc Injectors / Inline Walbro Fuel Pump / Port and Polished AWP Head w/ exhaust valves / IE Rods / VDO Boost+Vac Gauge / WideBand A/F Gauge / 3" Down pipe / Boostvalve MBC / 38mm EWG / Custom Intake Side / VF FMIC / 3" Eurojet Catback Exhaust / HKS SSQV / ECS Stage 2 Clutch, W/ Light Weight Flywheel**Vag Com - East Greenville, Pennsylvania** Pagparts/Eurodyne

    35. 04-04-2011 12:12 AM #35
      Revo Bt 550cc File
      Genisis 630cc on 3 bar w/ walbro 255lph pump (soon snow performace water meth)
      1.8t maf in 3" housing
      Stock emission (no cat)
      14-16"
      Hemi 80mm TB/USRT manifold
      Tweeks done with lemmiwinks but nothing major.


      Pretty smooth idle, car has a hickup every now and then.
      Last edited by Nevaeh_Speed; 04-04-2011 at 12:20 AM.

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