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      03-20-2017 01:22 PM #7251
      Quote Originally Posted by burnthesheep View Post
      Ninja edit: I put this route into route builder this morning. The iPhone 5s crap estimate was like 1500 ft. The route builder estimate ended up being like 2300 ft. Ellll ohhhh ellll. Time to buy a bike computer. If it's less, fine. If it's more, fine. Just tired of not having a consistent way to know.
      what do you mean the iphones estimate?

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      03-20-2017 01:25 PM #7252
      Shorty to beat some rain. It wouldve been better stats were it not for all the stop and go and dawdling behind slow pokes waiting for a clearing to get around. I was really laying it down for the most part.

      13.02 miles
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      247w NP - I was thinking this was gonna be more like 265-275 but i guess 247 with tons of stops is probably right.

    4. 03-20-2017 05:15 PM #7253
      First day of spring and I got my first road ride of 2017 in. Nothing crazy, about 15 miles but it was nice to get out on the bike. Even got in about 7 miles of XC skiing in today too!

      Spring 2017 by Geoff Potter, on Flickr

      Spring by Geoff Potter, on Flickr
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    5. 03-21-2017 09:05 AM #7254
      Quote Originally Posted by jnm2.0t View Post
      what do you mean the iphones estimate?
      The 5S does not have a barometric sensor. Therefore, along the route there's an interval in which the GPS updates the location and Strava uses "known" or "estimated" elevations for those points. From there you get elevation change.

      The iphone 6 has a baro sensor. Therefore it will work the same as a bike computer GPS does for elevation.

      Example.....1200 ft difference, same route.

      Planned route:
      https://www.strava.com/routes/7034731

      Actual route ridden: I expect this to be more accurate
      https://www.strava.com/activities/779100237

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      03-21-2017 09:30 AM #7255
      Quote Originally Posted by burnthesheep View Post
      The 5S does not have a barometric sensor. Therefore, along the route there's an interval in which the GPS updates the location and Strava uses "known" or "estimated" elevations for those points. From there you get elevation change.

      The iphone 6 has a baro sensor. Therefore it will work the same as a bike computer GPS does for elevation.
      My current bike computer has a barometric altimeter, and it's not stellar. It's older, sure, but still. Since it depends on something that often changes to measure a constant (and has no way to know what the change/weather is doing in real time), it's not always that great. Elevation routinely artificially ramps up/down over the course of the ride. My old GPS-only computer was dead consistent. A Strava "elevation correction" fixes the weirdness with my current GPS, but also largely negates the point of the barometric sensor. I mainly bought it because I'm a nerd and wanted to see live elevation info, but it even sort of sucks that that. It can be really laggy and doesn't always register smaller climbs. I assume that's mostly a function of it being old, so maybe newer setups are more responsive.

      More reading:
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      03-21-2017 09:52 AM #7256
      Quote Originally Posted by burnthesheep View Post
      The 5S does not have a barometric sensor. Therefore, along the route there's an interval in which the GPS updates the location and Strava uses "known" or "estimated" elevations for those points. From there you get elevation change.

      The iphone 6 has a baro sensor. Therefore it will work the same as a bike computer GPS does for elevation.

      Example.....1200 ft difference, same route.

      Planned route:
      https://www.strava.com/routes/7034731

      Actual route ridden: I expect this to be more accurate
      https://www.strava.com/activities/779100237
      For the most part I think that the mapped points are more accurate anyhow. A spot on a road doesn't change but the atmosphere, especially here, can have very different microclimates where things are all wacky.

      Now your ride there with a ton of little spiky hills is going to be difficult for a barometer to pickup, you're changing like 50-75 feet a hill and that's well within the margins of error. If every little hill is in the margins it's very easy for anything to be way off.

      And, while elevation is elevation, riding this kind of rollers isn't really 'climbing' per se so I wouldnt worry about the elevation anyhow. These are little sprintervals.
      Last edited by WhineMCABasket2.0t; 03-21-2017 at 12:21 PM.

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      03-21-2017 06:20 PM #7257
      Gave it a bit of a push today.

      19.24 miles
      1,020 feet
      19.4 avg mph
      254w NP

    9. 03-23-2017 08:22 AM #7258
      Why do teenage vagrants have to ruin everything? I took the little hump to the old overlook for a picture, get up there, and they've installed some kind of motion detected voice siren. Only sign is for no parking and a teeny no trespass sign over in the grass lot by the TV station tower. Looking online, they had a bunch of junkies up there tagging stuff for so long they put that in.

      Rode off and parked it on the descent for a pic.

      Either way 2500 ft and 18 mi (2600 ft if you add back where I pooped myself with the siren and left without hitting play).

      From August last year to March this year, I cut 10 minutes off the steeper side. From near dead last to almost middle of the pack. This time zero stopping on the climbs. Last time there was. The steeper side was into the wind a small bit and CVS side with the wind a small bit.

      This was on an empty stomach. Rode down for work in the AM and had lunch at noon and rode at 5:30 or 6:00. I'm sure a few watts were lost for that. But I had no idea when or if I'd get out of work to go, just took the bike just in case.

      Very pretty with the leaves not grown back in the trees, you can see a lot better the view around you.

      The climb on the Furman side is tougher, the descent on the CVS side is much more fun.

      https://www.strava.com/activities/91...ts/22208402381

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      03-23-2017 11:08 AM #7259
      ^ Looks like a solid bit of climbing. I need to do some of that.

      I missed the fact that a storm rolled through the night before last, so I got the Top Fuel all nice and clean. The trail started out bone dry, and for the most part was perfect, but there were some really muddy, fast, splattery holes here and there. So, now my bike is nice and dirty again. Oh well. That's what they're for.

      https://www.strava.com/activities/910711111

      Side note: I've been trying to track down inconsistent shifting on this bike. Last week, I discovered that the strands inside of the rear shifter housing had pulled through the 3 of the 4 ferrules. Some almost an inch. Weird, and I've never seen that before. That was causing a lot of excess friction - enough to overcome the spring in the derailleur and not allow it to move freely though its travel. OK, problem found. So, new housings and cable. Perfecto in the stand. The ride last night? Back to the weirdness. I haven't looked at it again, so who knows. I did use the same kind of crappy Jagwire aluminum ferrules with the new housing, so maybe I need to switch to brass on this bike. I also tore off the useless Trek-installed chainstay protector and replaced it with an old spiral-wound tube. The chain wasn't even hitting the protector anyway, as evidenced by the numerous chips in the paint and rattle-can ride noise over rough terrain.

      When I wasn't shifting though, it was surprisingly great. Very smooth... I guess getting the fork set up properly does that.

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      03-23-2017 04:33 PM #7260
      knot in my quad was back today and made it uncomfortable to push with the left leg.

      21.36 miles
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    12. 03-24-2017 09:10 AM #7261
      9 last night and about 600 ft. Just cruising the n-hood while the wife had a Spanish class going on in the house. I could tell I was tired from the day before and 8 hours of driving in 2 days.

      Today after work looks like an NRT day. Probably nothing quick or stellar, just get out and roll for a while. Need to get some flatland time to get the miles up for March.

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      03-25-2017 03:22 PM #7262
      bumped into my old club, still got the sprint in me, nobody came even close in the 2 that happened before i peeled off.

      51.05 miles
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      20s at about 8-900 watts in the sprint. i laid off a second or two on a turn but giving myself credit for the whole 20s. Had another that was 21s @725 too.

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      03-26-2017 03:51 PM #7263
      Intended on 30-40 miles of singletrack today, but I got to the last bailout and made the decision to cut out early. Just wasn't feeling it today with the constant need to clear snot from my nose and throat thanks to the ridiculous amounts of pollen this year. Ended up with 17 miles.
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      03-26-2017 05:48 PM #7264
      ^ Yeah, it's that time of year again. Pollen-coated water bottle nipples are the best.

      I got in a nice, mellow cruise yesterday, but not much riding today. Just a mile or so to a shop that just opened up (neighborhood guy who had a shop in his house/shed but expanded to an actual store) to get my rear EA90 SL tensioned properly. The rim has been banging around under power, and it's not something I'm confident that I can do properly. It's also the first time I can recall dropping anything that I own off at a shop for any kind of work in like 2 decades. I am going to get a spoke tension gauge for future DIYs, but thought I'd first see what a wheel is supposed to feel like.

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    16. 03-27-2017 08:55 AM #7265
      33 mi Friday. Decent pace. Damn wind the entire time. I'd like to think I got some with and then against, but simply didn't seem to be the case. Probably was crossed in a way it wouldn't ever help much. Was still nice out. Quite a few tri folks out and also quite a few more dedicated looking roadies out.

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      03-27-2017 08:56 PM #7266
      Quadzilla contest!! What's your biggest quad dimension? I dont care about 5" vs 6" from knee vs whatever. Just biggest point. Assuming you arent carrying around a ton of leg fat. I got 25" at the biggest spot.
      Last edited by WhineMCABasket2.0t; 03-27-2017 at 09:00 PM.

    18. 03-28-2017 09:07 AM #7267
      23 3/4"

      Only fat left is around the belly.

      Yesterday did another trainer workout at lunch. 4 minute intervals at 250w. A single max try at the end for fun, 500 for about 40 seconds seated, not standing. None of this is impressive to people who can ride at 250 for hours, but for me it results in a pool of sweat.

      I find the 4 minute intervals more mentally challenging. If it's not making me beg for the last 30 seconds to come then it's not hard enough.

      1 minute has it's place but one minute doesn't quite challenge the same mentally.

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      03-28-2017 05:03 PM #7268
      Yay mtn biking is back! Little hour ride to start getting some skills back before going to the tougher stuff. Everything went better than expected. Everything is vibrantly green.

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      03-29-2017 02:44 PM #7269
      with the rain gone Wed becomes my roadie day.

      44.78 miles
      1,647 ft
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      1209w max

      Also this is the 1 year anniversary of the last time i rode a hill on my road bike. Decided to put my wheels on the start of that hill and then just continue on my ride.

    21. 03-30-2017 03:33 PM #7270
      18 mi at lunch, 17.1 mph. Big whoop of 375 ft. Was a wussy and wore the workout under armour shirt and tight. I don't care if you're supposed to only wear shorts/jersey over 50 F or not.

      Just up past the museum and back. Good pace for the route, turns and bridges and stuff. Surprised there was a PR on the route up there and on the one little one minute hit by the bridge. I say because I actually got a very short calf cramp for the first time in forever. Probably due to sitting on my arse driving back and forth to Greenville twice in two weeks.

      For the overall time from the mall up there I'm certain if I solely tried to pace only for that part of the route I could get close to the top 10. But I don't really play by segments. I just put in more effort up a little hill because I don't want to waste time going up it. I roll with my phone screen blacked out if I know the route. It's only ever lit if I need directions. So I'd never know when a segment starts/ends anyway. :shrug:

    22. 03-31-2017 08:54 PM #7271
      18 mi again today. Was going to be more but got a flat from glass. Patch and a tube and went home. Glass under the damn G-wood ave bridge where the bums drink 40's sometimes. Tire is done.

      Got 2 puny little KOM's for the year, flat ones of like a minute and 5 minutes. Sure they'll be gone probably on Saturday but made me smile.

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      04-01-2017 04:08 PM #7272
      went to the techy single track hills today to continue de-rusting and getting the mtb legs back. the de-rusting went pretty well. i was absolutely bombing down one one the stretches of track that, had I not needed to slow for a lady and dog, I'd have turned in the best performance i've had on it, top 50 for sure. but, such is life, sharing the trails matters and strava doesn't. what does matter is i was totally comfortable bombing down this rocky loose tight downhill twisty single track.

      the legs weren't too happy with me, the uphill stuff i need to deal with i totally forgot what a bear it is. but good ride overall.

      goggles are uber pro ya know. but really, they are better than glasses.



      one section has like 13 switch backs, so I was practicing the tight slow speed handling. I was having a great go at it but my left turns are far better than my right. Thats true of trail turns too. So I ended up putting my tire too far up the berm of a right hand switch back to get ready for the turn and it washed down the berm and my left arm caught some rocks. worth it, good times.

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      04-02-2017 03:56 PM #7273
      Took the kiddo to the bike park for the first time in forever. I run my damping on the fork and shock to both be quite fast which makes the parks a bit tricky since it's rebounding before you even get over a bump and lands very firm. Slowed both down to the other end and yeah it's a lot better riding there, very noticeable.

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      04-02-2017 10:11 PM #7274
      Quote Originally Posted by jnm2.0t View Post
      Quadzilla contest!! What's your biggest quad dimension? I dont care about 5" vs 6" from knee vs whatever. Just biggest point. Assuming you arent carrying around a ton of leg fat. I got 25" at the biggest spot.
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      04-02-2017 11:48 PM #7275
      Crap weather but you need to keep them TSS numbers up, so whaddya do ?

      Jump on Zwift and do "Pretzel" course for 2.5hrs of course!

      Two bars, a gel and 2 bottles of drink gave me 200TSS...whooo!


      A power test tomorrow. Let's see if I am any stronger after 12 weeks of severe punishment.
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