NASCAR Race Talk

[b2m_vw]

or Fig Newtons across the windshield.

Anyone think Kyle Busch is somewhat like Ricky Bobby? Not in a way that he is funny (sometimes he is), but for the reason he'll say he's better than everyone out there and for the most part backs it up. Also because he talks smack over the radio.

[theshmoes]

Quote, originally posted by b2m_vw »

or Fig Newtons across the windshield. Anyone think Kyle Busch is somewhat like Ricky Bobby? Not in a way that he is funny (sometimes he is), but for the reason he'll say he's better than everyone out there and for the most part backs it up. Also because he talks smack over the radio.

he's definitely a "big" personality. and he does kind of have a "if you're not first, you're last" mentality. I can't really picture him being happy with anything other than a win.

before this season started, i had an intense dislike for kyle busch, stemming from richmond when he wrecked jr. but after his announcement of possible joining f1, i find myself rooting for him to win a championship, simply because i'd really like to see a top-nascar driver try f1. so, bring on the wins kyle!

[speed51133!]

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Modified by speed51133! at 1:50 PM 3-4-2009

[theshmoes]

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"turn left" http://www.theonion.com/conten...nning Modified by speed51133! at 1:50 PM 3-4-2009

"welcome to 2008"

[gonzo08452]

Quote, originally posted by theshmoes »

he's definitely a "big" personality. and he does kind of have a "if you're not first, you're last" mentality. I can't really picture him being happy with anything other than a win. before this season started, i had an intense dislike for kyle busch, stemming from richmond when he wrecked jr. but after his announcement of possible joining f1, i find myself rooting for him to win a championship, simply because i'd really like to see a top-nascar driver try f1. so, bring on the wins kyle!

It would be interesting to see how this turns out.

[SoCal_SFVR6]

I doubt Kyle will ever do F1, he's 23? Say it takes him 3 or 5 years to win a Cup championship.....(it could, the chase is not his friend.) He will more than likley be "too old" to learn a whole new type of driving. F1 teams want young kids.

[b2m_vw]

So Atlanta is this weekend, who's going to win? We all know Edwards and Johnson run good here, so they are probably the favorites.

The guys who need to have a good race, Jr - 29th in pts, Logano - 32nd in pts, Newman - 33rd in pts, and believe it or not Mark Martin who is 34th in pts. Speed also needs to pick it up, he is 37th in pts. This is race 4 and Bristol will be the last race for a lot of these teams to be locked in.

[gonzo08452]

Man, who knows. There are a lot of surprises this season. When you have two MWR cars in the top 12, you know something is not right. I'm still pulling for either Ragan or McMurray to get a win. I was surpirsed to see Clint in the #2 spot. They never talk about him during the broadcasts and he's not really a crowd or media favorite. He just sort of sneeks up in the standings. So yeah....who knows. I just want to see a great race

[SoCal_SFVR6]

The 20 car needs a solid run, otherwise that kid is on the bench for a couple of weeks soon.
I'll go ahead and pick.....heck the 24,48,18 or 99. . Good bet right?

[gonzo08452]

Good bets...

I'll go with #6, #26. #83, or #24

[b2m_vw]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say.......

[SoCal_SFVR6]

Martin on pole! Way to go oldman.
Front row Joe qualified great also.

[gonzo08452]

SoCal, you may be right about Logano.....

[theshmoes]

just watched the craftsman truck race. WHEW that was fun

kyle busch vs kevin harvick, vs todd bodine

restart with about 5 laps left

busch loses both second and third gear on the restart, falls back to 8-10th

harvick riding bodines bumper, trying to find a way by

3 laps left

all of a sudden, kyle busch claws his way back

goes high on harvick, sideways out of turn 4

goes low on bodine, sideways into turn 1

1 lap left, harvick sitting right on busch's bumper

harvick peaks down low, busch slams the door shut, tail hanging wide out of turn 2

harvick 3 truck lengths back going into 3, busch is loose but hangs on for the win!

wow, probably the craziest win i've ever seen, with half a transmission grenaded.

[theshmoes]

sometimes i wish sprint cup races were as short and entertaining as the truck series

for the sprint cup race i'll pick either of the busch brothers. dark horse would be bobby labonte in the 96 hall of fame racing fusion. he finished 5th last week and labonte OWNS atlanta. should be a good one, atlanta is one of my favorites


Modified by theshmoes at 1:03 PM 3-7-2009

[b2m_vw]

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sometimes i wish sprint cup races were as short and entertaining as the truck series for the sprint cup race i'll pick either of the busch brothers. dark horse would be bobby labonte in the 96 hall of fame racing fusion. he finished 5th last week and labonte OWNS atlanta. should be a good one, atlanta is one of my favorites Modified by theshmoes at 1:03 PM 3-7-2009

I agree with you about the races being shorter. I think the Truck series puts on the best show of all 3. The races today was a good one, yeah that was impressive to see Rowdy go from 2nd on the restart with about 8 to go, within a lap down to around 9th or so, then back to the lead with a couple to go.

[SoCal_SFVR6]

Kahne wins this weekend. He's due.

[gonzo08452]

props to Mr Busch. Great race. I knew he fell back to 9th and I said, Harvick will take this one. Next thing you know, he's in 4th and gaining Good night Gracie

[goosler]

rowdy!

[SoCal_SFVR6]

What the hell was that crew member thinking!? Wierd caution.

[b2m_vw]

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I'm going to go out on a limb and say.......

I should've been in Vegas!!!!!!

[SoCal_SFVR6]

BV has got to be disappointed as hell. Nice little reverse polish lap, there Kurt.

[b2m_vw]

Even though I took Busch earlier in the week, I was pulling for Vickers up until the caution came out. Vickers is going to make the chase, and he will win this year.

[theshmoes]

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Even though I took Busch earlier in the week, I was pulling for Vickers up until the caution came out. Vickers is going to make the chase, and he will win this year.

oh, for sure. i wonder if vickers had taken just two tires could he hold off busch? carl edwards was surprisingly competitive with just two right sides. he didnt fall back as much as i thought he would.

to allmendinger, top 20 in points.

for mark martin. the bad luck continues.

to jeff gordon, another second place but you'll get that win soon!

overall, pretty entertaining race. i'm a mopar fan so i'm happy when any dodge wins. of course, a last lap busch brothers battle would've been nice, but you can't have it all!

[b2m_vw]

Martin could be in a world of crap in a few weeks. He dropped to 35th in the points and Bristol is next! Logano is still down there in 33rd.

I don't think anyone could have held off Busch with only 2 tires. Maybe JG, maybe.

[gonzo08452]

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oh, for sure. i wonder if vickers had taken just two tires could he hold off busch? carl edwards was surprisingly competitive with just two right sides. he didnt fall back as much as i thought he would. to allmendinger, top 20 in points. for mark martin. the bad luck continues. to jeff gordon, another second place but you'll get that win soon! overall, pretty entertaining race. i'm a mopar fan so i'm happy when any dodge wins. of course, a last lap busch brothers battle would've been nice, but you can't have it all!

Sucks for Martin. I know its still very early but man, they came in with such high expectations and were expected to win right from the start. Props to Gordon despite clutch issues I'm starting to worry about the Dale and Tony Jr combo. Something is not right.

Modified by gonzo08452 at 9:05 AM 3-9-2009

[b2m_vw]

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I'm starting to worry about the Dale and Tony Jr combo. Something is not right. Modified by gonzo08452 at 9:05 AM 3-9-2009

I'm over it Being a big Jr fan I'm very disappointed about the last two years. Nothing against Hendrick, because that's not the problem. Jr's attitude has got to change. The thing that pulled me to become a Jr fan was his attitude when he came into the cup series. He thought he was bad a** and he drove that way. He moved people over, drove aggressively, and won races. Over the past couple of years he has become so freakin soft, more worried about how much respect he's getting out on the track, racing cautiously, trying not to piss anyone off. I guess that's what pulling me towards Rowdy, he's out to win, doesn't care who he pisses off, and will race you hard every lap. Jr used to be that way, not anymore. I'm starting to think he peaked in 2003.


Modified by b2m_vw at 11:33 AM 3-9-2009

[SoCal_SFVR6]

Quote, originally posted by b2m_vw »

I'm over it Being a big Jr fan I'm very disappointed about the last two years. Nothing against Hendrick, because that's not the problem. Jr's attitude has got to change. The thing that pulled me to become a Jr fan was his attitude when he came into the cup series. He thought he was bad a** and he drove that way. He moved people over, drove aggressively, and won races. Over the past couple of years he has become so freakin soft, more worried about how much respect he's getting out on the track, racing cautiously, trying not to piss anyone off. I guess that's what pulling me towards Rowdy, he's out to win, doesn't care who he pisses off, and will race you hard every lap. Jr used to be that way, not anymore. I'm starting to think he peaked in 2003.

DUDE, my feelings exactly. I put alot of blame on Tony Jr too, though. Darian Grubb should have been Jr's crew chief. I mean, what happens when Jrs contract is up at Hendrick and he has 2 or 3 wins? Looks like it's going to happen.

[b2m_vw]

Bring back Pops Eury to Jr. I think that's when Jr was at his best.


Modified by b2m_vw at 12:57 PM 3-9-2009

[SoCal_SFVR6]

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Bring back Pops Eury to Jr. I think that's when Jr was at his best.

Tony jr and Dale jr as a combo only have like 3 wins right?

[b2m_vw]

So with Pops Eury -15 wins (6 of those came in 04) with a highest pts finish of 3rd in 03. 4000+ laps lead under Pops.

With Tony Jr - 2 wins, and not one season of more than 1000+ laps lead (3 season of 1000+ laps lead under Pops). Highest pts finish of 5th.

1 win came under Steve Hmeil at Chicago in 05.

Bring back Pops!

Modified by b2m_vw at 1:43 PM 3-9-2009

[SoCal_SFVR6]

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1 win came under Steve Hmeil at Chicago in 05. Bring back Pops!

Ok, I was wondering about the Chicago win. I only remember it, because Jr was driving a cool blue/red MLB car. Well......those numbers don't lie. I can only assume that Mr.Hendrick reads them also and Im willing to bet that the 5 and 88 teams get shook up before the season ends.

[b2m_vw]

You know what sad though is even in the N'wide races, Jr doesn't run up front anymore. There was a span at Daytona and Talladega around 02-04 where he would run up front all day in the N'wide. Now when races, he struggles for top 10's. I hope he is able to turn it around this year, because now that he is in the best equipment there is and JJ and JG are running up front, there are no more excuses for him. It's all on his shoulders now.

Mark Martin has just suffered bad luck, 2 blown engines and a blown tire. Jr has just been bad, plain and simple.


Modified by b2m_vw at 2:14 PM 3-9-2009

[SoCal_SFVR6]

I know it's only been one season, but Im starting to also see that Jr ain't as good as people like to think. I knew he was no Tony Stewart, but damn Jr. The 5 car is out winning poles, Jimmie is leading laps and Jeff is leading the points. To be fair, I honestly believe that if the COT never came to life, Jr would have quite a few more wins, so would Jeff. (and alot of other guys too probably.)

[theshmoes]

i think the jury is still out on jr's performance this season. he had a top 10 last week and finished 11th this week, overcoming a wheel that felt like it was about to come off. i think they are going the conservative route now, rack up the top 10s and advance in points. maybe in the later half they'll start experimenting for the chase. He probably won't get many wins, but i predict he'll be there when the chase comes.