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    1. 09-17-2008 08:18 PM #1
      My friend has a 02 gti, the only thing it has done is a 93 octane apr chip. I drove his car and it pulls pretty strong. I drove my friends 03 gti and it has a giac x+ software and it seems a little faster. Which ones are usually faster the apr or giac. What do each run at the track with just the ecu upgrade everything else stock.

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      09-17-2008 11:55 PM #2
      i have heard that GIAC gets you the most power but also throws the most CEL. Personally i have the GIAC and love it and it has never thrown a code except for an o2 sensor.
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      09-18-2008 02:42 PM #3
      Go to the track. Do a chip only shootout.

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      10-29-2008 03:43 AM #4
      GIAC has more timing advance and higher IATs then APR's chips....
      faster? depends on the driver to be honest
      safer? APR has the most reliable tune on the market (yea yea opinions are like aholes)

      A member of our local club has had both chips, he swears the APR chip is better and has logs to back his claims


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      10-29-2008 11:13 AM #5
      1/4 mile times completely depend on the driver.
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    6. 10-29-2008 02:50 PM #6
      Quote, originally posted by VentoVR6Girl »
      1/4 mile times completely depend on the driver.

      And what software you're running Katie, you know that.


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      10-29-2008 04:12 PM #7
      yup adam's the one you wanna talk to when your looking to dump the wimpy k03 for a real turbo. I know of a gentleman in FL that swears by his product and has time slips to back his claims. Nice stuff.... too bad you guys don't do anything for us 12v N/A addicts

    8. 10-29-2008 07:13 PM #8
      Quote, originally posted by Adam@Unitronic.ca »

      And what software you're running Katie, you know that.

      Driver matters more.

      Timed single gear punch from x mph to x mph is the only somewhat accurate way to compare two chipped cars.

      I was a man... I was a good man... Selling insurance...

    9. 10-30-2008 10:55 AM #9
      Quote, originally posted by 1.BillyT »

      Driver matters more.

      Timed single gear punch from x mph to x mph is the only somewhat accurate way to compare two chipped cars.

      I'm aware, it was a joke.


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      10-30-2008 03:24 PM #10
      we dont take kindly to jokes in here.
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    11. 10-30-2008 06:50 PM #11
      Quote, originally posted by Adam@Unitronic.ca »

      I'm aware, it was a joke.

      Those scary green things threw my internet inflection perception way off...

      I was a man... I was a good man... Selling insurance...

    12. 10-31-2008 12:16 PM #12
      Quote, originally posted by vdubed »
      we dont take kindly to jokes in here.

      Shut up you communist.


    13. 02-19-2010 12:00 PM #13
      FACTS:

      1. I installed the GIAC chip (actually a 5-minute cable software upload) on my 100% stock 1.8 T and the power under boost went berserk .

      (2). It’s supposed (I have yet to measure the new power in a dynamometer) to raise the max horsepower from 180 to 210. But the real treat I got is in the torque department: from 174 lb-ft to a whopping 235! You can feel a big difference. It feels like a multivalve V6.

      3. You get usable power at way lower RPMs. No longer need to make the engine scream to accelerate really fast.

      4. In the drag strip I lowered my quarter-mile time from 15.4 to 15.0 flat. Consistently and with higher measured top speed (from 85 mph to a solid 92 mph) (recommend raising octane levels to 93 with toluene mixture). All that with lame 60 ft starts that went from 2.1 seconds to 2.3 seconds. When I get the hang of the new pedal curve, I will let you know.

      5. I haven't reached the 14s since now I have a serious grip problem during takeoff, thanks to the brutal torque peak I'm receiving from 2500 RPM. Instead of peaking the torque pull at 2100 (OEM), now I get loads more torque from 2500-3000 AND keeps pulling hard until about 4500.

      6. Forget the traction control aids in 1st and 2nd gear. The computer goes like crazy trying to keep things safe, but it only manages to slow me down just a bit and blinks a warning light until the wheels stop squealing at about 80 Km/h (50 mph).

      7. The really good nicety I'm experiencing now it's at highway speeds. Now I never need to shift down in order to accelerate with might. It can go from 120 Km/h to 180 Km/h (75 mph to 112 mph) in a few seconds, without ever needing to mash down the pedal all the way. Pimped-out Hondas (yes, even those lame V6 Accords) and Acuras don't get even the slightest hope to catch up with me.


      (me) ------------------------------->
      (pimp my ride Honda drivers) --->
      (old farts in BMW X5) ------------>
      (guys in noisy Toyotas) ---------->

      Modified by Flurrymail at 11:10 AM 2-19-2010


      Modified by Flurrymail at 5:43 PM 2-19-2010


    14. 02-21-2010 02:09 AM #14
      Quote, originally posted by WeAreSix »
      My friend has a 02 gti, the only thing it has done is a 93 octane apr chip. I drove his car and it pulls pretty strong. I drove my friends 03 gti and it has a giac x+ software and it seems a little faster. Which ones are usually faster the apr or giac. What do each run at the track with just the ecu upgrade everything else stock.

      Also does the 03 gti have a 6spd trans compared to the 5spd? The gear ratios are different in the two trans which could cause a comparison to be slightly different between the two with the butt dyno. But if they are both 5spd trans then the gears should be at the same ratio.

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