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      02-25-2008 11:48 AM #1
      From my local VW tech:
      On Feb 21st VW just announced the Q3 recall. This recall involves checking the intake runner flap motor and performing basic settings on the motor. If BS performs OK, then there will be an update on the ECM.
      If the BS test fails, you get the update and a new motor.
      The TSB is 01-08-08.
      Looks like APR, Revo, and GIAC will have to update their software yet again.

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      02-25-2008 11:49 AM #2
      Can anyone get a PDF of this TSB? or more info on which vehicles it affects?
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    3. 02-25-2008 11:50 AM #3
      wonderful news - my mom's car keeps having this issue.

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      02-25-2008 11:52 AM #4
      There is no vin range...it's all vehicles 06-08 according to him. Call your local dealer and provide your vin to find out if you're affected before you take it in just in case.

    5. 02-25-2008 11:52 AM #5
      your tech is wrong it's not a recall its a "required vehicle update" which is different than a recall in the sense that people will not be notified they will just check cars at the dealer and if need be do the 03 update [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      02-25-2008 11:53 AM #6
      My apologies...I must have misunderstood.
      Either way, modded or not...this is a REQUIRED fix and will be performed if needed.

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      02-25-2008 12:00 PM #7
      I finally get my PCV fixed, and then this code pops up yesterday. Now, hopefully this will fully cure the issues. Is the new updated SW gaurenteed to wipe all aftermarket SW out?
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      02-25-2008 12:01 PM #8
      Yes...the procedure is the same as the OY recall and will remove your aftermarket software.

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      02-25-2008 12:10 PM #9
      Thanks NG. Man that sucks it removes the SW. Now that I moved, I live at least 2 hours away from my GIAC dealer. Is there anyway this could contribute to my 2-3 psi loss? I have replaced PCV (upgraded to 4 checkvalves) and run the Forge DV...as well as cleaned (with rubbing acohol) all hoses and replaced all clamps throughout the Intake System (no leaks anywhere). Anyone got any thoughts on this? Sorry to jack NG, if you want I will post in different thread (just wasn't sure if this could be the culprit or not).
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      02-25-2008 12:22 PM #11
      This should not affect boost pressures...here is his explanation of what it actually does...
      "Your intake has a flap in it. This flap moves so air can flow faster depending on rpm and engine load. The motor that moves this flap is also a position sensor. This motor/sensor is a POS and fails often on the 2.0T's. After vw found a problem and everyone had a failing sensor, they made the sensor better...but it still failed. Then they said oops, the sensor was good all along, the programming was bad luhlz...Recall..."

    12. 02-25-2008 12:33 PM #12
      So will this show up on the VAS just like a regular update ?
      Or do we have to go "looking for it" ?

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      02-25-2008 12:35 PM #13
      Quote, originally posted by Robin @ Revo Technik »

      This is the new "OY". It's S0040
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    14. 02-25-2008 12:42 PM #14
      Here is the one I have...







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      02-25-2008 12:47 PM #15
      Thats the exact bulletin I read this morning, thanks for posting that!
      And LOL at doing that intake motor flap in 70 minutes...

    16. 02-25-2008 01:13 PM #16
      Dang... I wonder how much this would set me back, as I am chipped. I guess I'll just cross my fingers and hope I don't have to deal with this anytime soon.
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    17. 02-25-2008 01:39 PM #17
      how does the dealer "check the ecm to ensure it has not been tuned"?

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      02-25-2008 01:39 PM #18
      Problem is you'd have to sign a waver or something saying you're chipped when you bring it to the dealer for anything else me thinks.

    19. 02-25-2008 01:51 PM #19
      Quote, originally posted by mwwVW »
      how does the dealer "check the ecm to ensure it has not been tuned"?

      they don't they just flash the car and couldn't care if you are chipped or not, if you choose to not have the flash down you sign a waver telling vw you have a tuned ecm the tech sends it to voa and they put it on file that your car has a tuned ecu

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      02-25-2008 02:40 PM #20
      So basically if you keep your mouth shut no one will ever know......
      If the glove doesn't fit......you must Acquit!!!

    21. 02-25-2008 07:43 PM #21
      What happens if you have the upgraded fuel pump? I was about to get one. Will it damage my engine to drive from the dealer back to my tuner?

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      02-25-2008 07:49 PM #22
      It will be fine to drive until you get reflashed by your tuner again.
      Rereflashed?

    23. 02-25-2008 07:55 PM #23
      Quote, originally posted by Robin @ Revo Technik »
      It will be fine to drive until you get reflashed by your tuner again.
      Rereflashed?

      if you look on the tsb it only says it is for the B ecu's, meaning at this point in time us 2007 and newer guys are safe....but as for 2006 guys you all get robin's rereflash.....lets just hope their is never going to be a rerereflash

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      02-25-2008 08:55 PM #24
      I've already had my intake flap replaced under warranty. I wonder if they will leave me alone? I've had no CEL's since the replacement.

    25. 02-25-2008 09:24 PM #25
      OK, I don't have a MIL on, but I do have the software revision 8EO910115P that calls for a flapper motor replacement (without checking for chipped software if I read the TSB right)
      So it needs to "fail" (pull the plug?) first to get a replacement?

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      02-26-2008 01:33 AM #26
      Quote, originally posted by jc@douglas »
      they don't they just flash the car and couldn't care if you are chipped or not, if you choose to not have the flash down you sign a waver telling vw you have a tuned ecm the tech sends it to voa and they put it on file that your car has a tuned ecu
      i took my car in to have an ac vent replaced under warranty. when i picked it up they had done the headlight adjuster cap recall done as well as the OY update...which was flashed over my GIAC. they never bothered to call or ask me to sign anything. i knew i could have it reflashed so i didnt bother telling they or bitching to avoid getting any warranty affected.

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      02-26-2008 08:13 AM #27
      I'm trying to hold off going to the dealer for anything because APR hasn't updated their files yet to include the 0040 patch. Sooner I get to the dealer for anything is the sooner I'll be running stock waiting for the new flash.
      I'm sure all the Chip guys will have something quick.

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      02-26-2008 09:03 AM #28
      Thanks for posting this, great to know. I need to schedule a visit. This is worth having to do a rereflash in my eyes.

    29. 02-26-2008 10:06 AM #29
      Can I still get this checked/done for free even if I'm 3,000 miles past my warranty?
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      Time to give up and buy a horse.

    30. 02-26-2008 10:08 AM #30
      Quote, originally posted by Rogerthat »
      Can I still get this checked/done for free even if I'm 3,000 miles past my warranty?

      i just called vw and checked into this and yes you can, as long as it applies to your vin number and ecu

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      02-26-2008 10:12 AM #31
      Quote, originally posted by Rogerthat »
      And where is that vin# located?

      VIN number is stamped on every panel in your car! Most visible places though are the bottom right corner of your windshield if looking at the car from the outside, or on the inside of the door. Also on your car registration, probably your insurance statement and a few other places.
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    32. 02-26-2008 10:12 AM #32
      Quote, originally posted by Rogerthat »
      And where is that vin# located?

      the dealership will check it for you to see if it applies, just call them and give them your vin number

    33. 02-26-2008 10:18 AM #33
      Quote, originally posted by milan616 »
      VIN number is stamped on every panel in your car! Most visible places though are the bottom right corner of your windshield if looking at the car from the outside, or on the inside of the door. Also on your car registration, probably your insurance statement and a few other places.

      Sorry for the confusion, I thought the bulletin was referring to the ECU vin# not the car.
      Quote Originally Posted by nm+ View Post
      Time to give up and buy a horse.

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      02-26-2008 10:26 AM #34
      Quote, originally posted by Rogerthat »
      Sorry for the confusion, I thought the bulletin was referring to the ECU vin# not the car.

      No worries, it can be confusing! ECU is only likely to have a part number and current software revision.
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      02-26-2008 10:49 AM #35

      can you check for those codes with a vagcom? (yes you can stupid )
      than i'd know whether its an issue on mine or not, or do you have to go in regardless. mine is a late 05 build

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