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    1. Member plynch's Avatar
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      01-25-2007 08:50 PM #1
      i bought this car as is with a broken timing belt, but the belt did not break, it just stripped the teeth off at the crank, the belt was still intact but the teeth were all gone from the belt at the bottom..., the question is, is it possible to have no bent valves with a situation like this? i am looking at the valves with the cams out and all the valves are setting on the seats... i mean on the seats, not off at all. the pistons dont have any marks or scraches at all... and all the valves sit flush...? what is going on here engine bottom end rotates fine... help me out here
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      01-25-2007 09:23 PM #2
      Its possible, but in most cases with these interface engines, there is USUALLY some kind of valve damage. Check things closely from all angles.

      Hopefully its not too bad. If the belt broke/stripped at low rpms, its possible that there isnt any damage at all. Just really depends.

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      01-25-2007 09:27 PM #3
      The same thing happened to me before.. The teeth stripped off at the crank. I put a new belt on just to make sure............and tap tap tap is all i heard. bent valves but the car still ran.
      Plenty of parts for sale!

    4. 01-25-2007 09:36 PM #4
      The situation you described with the timing belt usually bends valves but not always, sounds like you may have just gotten lucky. It's possible the valves are very slightly bent and just not readily visible to the naked eye so, since you've got the head off, turn the head upside down, level it off and fill each combustion chamber with solvent, if any of the valves are bent, the solvent will leak into the port rather quickly.

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      01-25-2007 10:23 PM #5
      This looks hot!

      Plenty of parts for sale!

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      01-25-2007 10:43 PM #6
      Quote, originally posted by Greengt1 »
      This looks hot!

      I need to find pictures of valves from the 1.8L. Those looked like S's

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    7. 01-25-2007 11:01 PM #7
      ouch-40k tb service no joke

    8. Member plynch's Avatar
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      01-26-2007 05:11 PM #8
      yeah i tried the solvent in each chamber idea, yeah they are all bent just enough not noticable from the naked eye but a slow leak from 3 of the 4 cylinders were leaking.... so i need to buy 12 more valves.... thought id only bent 4, i should have done this before... u live and learn... thanks vortex... ps see my other post on my other 16v about rad fan issues
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      01-26-2007 05:17 PM #9
      Quote, originally posted by Greengt1 »
      This looks hot!

      omg thats sweet

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    10. 01-26-2007 05:29 PM #10
      Quote, originally posted by plynch »
      yeah i tried the solvent in each chamber idea, yeah they are all bent just enough not noticable from the naked eye but a slow leak from 3 of the 4 cylinders were leaking.... so i need to buy 12 more valves.... thought id only bent 4, i should have done this before... u live and learn... thanks vortex... ps see my other post on my other 16v about rad fan issues

      A slow leak is not definitive, that could just mean you need a normal valve job. Before you buy new valves, clean one of the suspect valves, chuck it up into a drill press, mill or valve grinding machine (preferred) and check the runout on the valve then compare that to a valve that's known to be good.


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      01-26-2007 05:53 PM #11
      yeah true i guess i could do that or lap them in with some clover compound and try again maybe? what is the best valve spring compressor? for head off the engine of course


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    12. 01-26-2007 06:11 PM #12
      Lapping the valves can also serve as an effective diagnosic procedure. A couple turns with some fine lapping compound will leave a visible mark on the valve, inspecting those marks will tell you if the valve is making proper contact with the valve seat.

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      01-29-2007 03:22 PM #13
      ive seen them break at idle and sometimes you can get lucky then with engine speeds that low. otherwise i think its pretty much a garuntee that some will be bent...

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      01-29-2007 06:01 PM #14
      same thing happened to me and I was one of the lucky ones. The car runs like a raped ape.

      Just another reason to stay current with the belt. I didn't, but had it planned for the upcoming month.... go figure.

      Good luck


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      01-30-2007 06:17 PM #15
      any valve spring compessors recommendations? mine is for aircooled and attaches to the outside springs clearly not going to work on the 16v
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    16. 01-30-2007 07:16 PM #16
      Cheap way- 8" C-clamp and a socket with a hole cut into it so you can get the keepers out. Takes ages, but it costs maybe $20

    17. Member plynch's Avatar
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      02-11-2007 09:01 PM #17

      these are the lifters at 137k miles they look worn to me....
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      02-11-2007 09:01 PM #18



      Modified by plynch at 6:03 PM 2-11-2007
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      02-11-2007 09:10 PM #19
      Looks pretty worn to me. Hard miles.
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      02-11-2007 10:02 PM #20
      eastwood company the have them for 20 bucks and its the last one youll buy. the put a socket on the end and your in business. hope this helps.

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      02-21-2007 08:44 PM #21
      got a website? not familiar with eastwood?
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