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    1. 10-31-2006 10:43 AM #1
      ok i wanna know what the nost cost effective easiest to do swap in my jetta gl is

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      10-31-2006 10:44 AM #2
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      10-31-2006 10:48 AM #5
      If you're looking for simplicity and cost effectiveness, a swap probably isn't the best idea. Mine's pretty basic--I've got an 8v with a 2L ABA block and I love it. The Golf/Jetta II forum will probably tell you the only swap worth doing is a VR6. Unless you're a competent mechanic, you probably shouldn't attempt that, because even if a shop does the work, maintenance and repairs will eat you alive. Good luck.

    6. 10-31-2006 10:50 AM #6
      most cost effective and easiest swap is putting another 1.8 8v into it with lower km and better compression
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      10-31-2006 10:54 AM #7
      Also keep in mind that if your car is stock, you'll really need to upgrade other components (suspension, brakes, etc.) which adds up considerably beyond the cost of the engine itself.

    8. 10-31-2006 11:02 AM #8
      A 200 shot of nitrous and a garage full of spare $100 8Vs is the best swap

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      10-31-2006 11:04 AM #9
      If your're looking for simple and cost-effective, dont bother doing a swap in the first place. You've gotta pay to play.

      However I've heard that the 2.0 crossflow (aka 2.slow) motor is one of the easiest swaps. I just fail to see the point.


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      10-31-2006 11:14 AM #10
      You didn't specify engine swap, so I'll say shifter knob
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      10-31-2006 11:17 AM #11
      Quote, originally posted by anarchyx34 »
      However I've heard that the 2.0 crossflow (aka 2.slow) motor is one of the easiest swaps. I just fail to see the point.

      To be fair, I did notice a difference when I went from the 1.8 to the 2.0 in my '91 GTI, and my car puts down 108 whp with the most basic of performance mods.


    12. 10-31-2006 11:22 AM #12
      A friend of mine put the MKIII 2.0 ABA x-flow in his 91 Golf. He loves it and it was hard - but not impossible.

      The easiest is either another 8V or a 16v. With a VR swap - a BUNCH of stuff needs to be changed (subframe, wiring harness, etc...)

      You should check out the Jetta/Golf II forum for more info


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      10-31-2006 11:26 AM #13
      Quote, originally posted by anarchyx34 »
      If your're looking for simple and cost-effective, dont bother doing a swap in the first place. You've gotta pay to play.

      However I've heard that the 2.0 crossflow (aka 2.slow) motor is one of the easiest swaps. I just fail to see the point.

      Well for starters the 2.0 ABA is a helluva lot better than the 8v he currently has. It house stout internals and can take boost. It has ~118hp compared to the ~100hp of the 8v. It's not all that hard to swap and has more tuning options than the 8v.

      2L motor might be a pig in a the pig mk3's and mk4's, but in a light mk2 they're pretty respectable


    14. 10-31-2006 11:48 AM #14
      VR6 swap on your car would be dead simple. Plug and play wiring, drill a half doz holes and swap a few parts. It could probably be done for around $2k.

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      10-31-2006 11:50 AM #15
      Quote, originally posted by CannuckCorradoVR6T »
      VR6 swap on your car would be dead simple. Plug and play wiring, drill a half doz holes and swap a few parts. It could probably be done for around $2k.


      Ummm....I would doubt it. $2k for that kind of swap? I would hope he's done other mods before that happens


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      10-31-2006 12:02 PM #16
      The Northstar is hardly cost effective.

      For a little over $1,000, not counting labor, you could get a wrecked Mk3 TDI, and do a 1.9TDI swap.

      Almost VR6 torque (and it hits at low RPMs, too), and slightly less horsepower than you have now. And THAT is easily remedied (and then some) with a chip and injectors, for under $600.

      Oh, and reesie, I thought everyone in there was all going to 16v turbo setups now.


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      10-31-2006 12:19 PM #17
      Unless you're really attached to the car, it's most likelly cheaper to sell yours and buy either a 16V or whatever it is that you want. If you wish to buy a car that already has a swap, make damn sure that it was done well. If it wasn't, you're out alot of money. Alot. Whole bunches.

      My car is factory (though very worn) and is a blast to drive. If you can find a 16V for a decent price, you get great seats (Recaros in mine) and pretty good brakes/suspension. I'm considering a swap in the future, but my swap would be putting my engine, suspension and brakes into a better condition Golf/GTi. (mines bent a little and has a leaky windshield.) If I go that route, I'll have to find out the difficulty of changing over my multifunction dislplay, as I rather like it.

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      10-31-2006 12:20 PM #18
      Quote, originally posted by bhtooefr »
      The Northstar is hardly cost effective.

      I think that was a joke.

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    19. 10-31-2006 12:20 PM #19
      Quote, originally posted by RedIrishman »
      Ummm....I would doubt it. $2k for that kind of swap? I would hope he's done other mods before that happens

      ya, that wouldnt include brakes or suspension. But, the easiest, fastest, most cost effective way to do this swap is to buy a whole donor car. Then the suspension, brakes, wiring and associated plumbing is all there. VR6 conversions are totally worthwhile, bone stock MK2 vr's can run mid to low 14's!


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      10-31-2006 12:24 PM #20
      Quote, originally posted by bhtooefr »
      For a little over $1,000, not counting labor, you could get a wrecked Mk3 TDI, and do a 1.9TDI swap.

      I've never seen a TDI donor in the $1k range, and I've been looking for a couple of years.

      Quote, originally posted by bhtooefr »
      Oh, and reesie, I thought everyone in there was all going to 16v turbo setups now.

      The point is, they're gluttons for punishment.


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      10-31-2006 12:29 PM #21
      See, what you do is, you look around on TDIClub, and when someone posts "I rolled my Jetta" or something like that, you PM them, and offer them $1000.

      I really need to find one myself, but I have a friend with a 16v GTI that wants to be back in a diesel MUCH more than I want a TDI.


    22. 10-31-2006 12:30 PM #22
      Quote, originally posted by bhtooefr »

      For a little over $1,000, not counting labor, you could get a wrecked Mk3 TDI, and do a 1.9TDI swap.


      Modified by bhtooefr at 12:07 PM 10-31-2006


      I saw a well totalled mk3 tdi sell for at least 1500.

      I guess if it is possible on the tdiclub.com, I'm just quite skeptical of it.


    23. 10-31-2006 12:37 PM #23
      dont even start on that. My neighbour rolled his 99 TDI and could have bought it back for $800.....but he didnt. I would have loved to do the TDI swap, the car it would have gone into was diesel originally! Damn.

    24. 10-31-2006 01:40 PM #24
      1.8 16v, 2.0 16v, 1.8T, VR6
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    25. 11-01-2006 12:27 PM #25
      so the aba 2.0 is what the 2.0 8v cuz i hear there pretty good when turbo'd what would i need to do that swap ?

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      11-01-2006 12:30 PM #26
      Quote, originally posted by bob_loblaw »
      so the aba 2.0 is what the 2.0 8v cuz i hear there pretty good when turbo'd what would i need to do that swap ?


      Motor, harness, downpipe, cat.

      And if you want a bit more power you can swap a 16v head onto the ABA block but that makes it low compression and you would def need to go turbo if you do that.


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      11-01-2006 12:38 PM #27
      16v. Buy it used, rebuild it (stock, maybe cams), and drive the piss out of it. Reliable when you maintain it, simple to swap.

    28. 11-02-2006 12:14 AM #28
      so it looks like you got that whole think for sale then how much shipped email me johnny_de_almeida85@hotmail.com

    29. 11-02-2006 12:29 AM #29
      Quote, originally posted by crazyreesie »
      If you're looking for simplicity and cost effectiveness, a swap probably isn't the best idea. Mine's pretty basic--I've got an 8v with a 2L ABA block and I love it. The Golf/Jetta II forum will probably tell you the only swap worth doing is a 1.8T. Unless you're a competent mechanic, you probably shouldn't attempt that, because even if a shop does the work, maintenance and repairs will eat you alive. Good luck.

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    30. 11-02-2006 12:29 AM #30
      The easiest swap.

      Trade in


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      11-02-2006 12:33 AM #31
      Quote, originally posted by bob_loblaw »
      so it looks like you got that whole think for sale then how much shipped email me johnny_de_almeida85@hotmail.com

      Sorry bro, local pick up only. I do know have the patience to pay for freight to Ontario. And you don't want to spend the money it costs to get it up there. You're better off finding something local to swap in


    32. 11-03-2006 01:22 AM #32
      so i won't need a trany or ecu?

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      11-03-2006 01:26 AM #33
      look up the 16v and the VR6, I believe the 1.8t swap (my dream) is alot harder than either of those

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      11-03-2006 04:02 AM #34
      I agree that the 2.0 ABA is the easiest and not a bad idea.

      What about the guy that found a way to swap in an older 1.8t into a Mk3 with only little wiring changes? His secret had something to do with some adapter he used at the distributor.... I'll try to find the thread. Couldn't be too much harder to apply it to the Mk2.

      edit: searched my *** off and can't find the thread...references to it in other threads but no links. Username is some derivative of Reflex or Reflexbug but can't find anything with that either. I'm sure someone will chime in with it.


      Modified by shftat6 at 1:47 AM 11-3-2006


    35. 11-03-2006 04:11 AM #35
      Quote, originally posted by bob_loblaw »
      ok i wanna know what the nost cost effective easiest to do swap in my jetta gl is

      Well see if someone will swap you a civic.

      Volkswagen can't touch the B-series. Sorry.


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