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    09-11-2006 07:02 AM #1

    Audi is proud to present a world first – the first twelve-cylinder diesel engine in a series passenger car. This six-litre V12 makes its debut in the Audi Q7. It produces a colossal 500 PS and 1,000 Nm of torque. With this engine Audi has opened a new chapter in diesel history.

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  2. 09-11-2006 07:26 AM #2
    WOW amazing engine EU 5 compliant, 11.9L per 100km, all I can think of is Vorsprung durch Technik
    Not to sure on design so far


    Come on DCX, BMW we dare you to beat the almighty VAG


    Modified by phaeton at 10:49 PM 9/11/2006


  3. 09-11-2006 09:03 AM #3
    WOW that car will be like 80 K . When will it come to USA especially IL state. 2010 ?

  4. 09-11-2006 09:51 AM #4
    Absolutely phenomenal! Here I was wondering when Audi was going to put 4 valves per cylinder and common rail injection on the Touareg V10 TDI, and now they come out with this.

    I just did some conversions:

    0-60: 5.3 seconds
    Top speed: 155 mph (of course)
    HP: 500 DIN
    Torque: 740.7 lb.ft
    MPG: 19.8

    Not bad


    Modified by D Clymer at 11:14 AM 9/11/2006


  5. 09-11-2006 12:23 PM #5
    Audi taking on Porshe? I dont' know if they'll win that one.

  6. 09-11-2006 01:14 PM #6
    This thing is mean! Love the design. Does anyone know if this will become the "S" Sport model of the Q7? It does have all the styling bits of the new range of Audi "S" models like the S6 and the S8.

  7. 09-11-2006 01:25 PM #7
    I hope it will arrive in time for me to trade in my current Q7-4.2 premium...which BTW I love. Love the new grill!

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    09-11-2006 02:05 PM #8
    So when are we going to get Audi TDIs in the US? I'd love to have the option of an A3 5-door TDI with individually-selectable options.

  9. 09-11-2006 02:50 PM #9
    Nice photoshops...

  10. 09-11-2006 03:01 PM #10
    any sound clips?

  11. 09-11-2006 03:50 PM #11
    so when will this make it's way into a lambo?

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    09-11-2006 05:12 PM #12
    Quote, originally posted by QUATTR0 »
    Nice photoshops...

    They might be photoshops, but they are directly through Audi's PR department. This means they're photoshops made to look exactly like the real thing. So they're not my impression or an independent artist's impression.

    For the USA? Don't know. I'm looking into this.

    How awesome would that motor be in the R8?!?!?!?!


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    09-11-2006 05:12 PM #13
    BTW, those high beams look to be LED from the photos, like the A8 W12.

  14. 09-11-2006 05:13 PM #14
    Quote, originally posted by George@Fourtitude »

    How awesome would that motor be in the R8?!?!?!?!

    scratch my previous comment about lambo and drop this beast in the R8


  15. 09-11-2006 05:45 PM #15
    Holy crap...however, the wheels are probably the worst I've ever seen on a VAG product - whatever, you can change those.

    This engine...is ridiculous.


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    09-11-2006 06:13 PM #16
    wow wow wow wow wow

    What a breathtaking engine by Audi. Now we at least need the 3.0TDI in the states before this monster even thinks about coming over here.

    i absolutely love the revised front bumper and grill. But the grill is a definite photoshop because of how the license plate is.

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  17. 09-11-2006 06:22 PM #17
    Quote, originally posted by George@Fourtitude »

    They might be photoshops, but they are directly through Audi's PR department. This means they're photoshops made to look exactly like the real thing. So they're not my impression or an independent artist's impression.

    For the USA? Don't know. I'm looking into this.

    How awesome would that motor be in the R8?!?!?!?!

    No, I never suspected they were from Fourtitude... it's just odd that Audi would release photoshops instead of pics of the real vehicle. Maybe they didn't have time to do a photoshoot or the new bodywork pieces were not ready yet?


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    09-11-2006 09:29 PM #18
    geeeez!

    5.3 seconds to 60 mph in an SUV that's probably larger than a Ford Escape and gets nearly 20 mpg?

    I hope they put that engine in other models such as the A8.


  19. 09-11-2006 10:10 PM #19
    Quote, originally posted by Gans »
    geeeez!

    5.3 seconds to 60 mph in an SUV that's probably larger than a Ford Escape and gets nearly 20 mpg?

    I hope they put that engine in other models such as the A8.

    I'm sure Audi will use the V12 in the A8, but it will have to be the upcoming D4 with the revised front axle/firewall placement. It sure will make a great car engine.


  20. 09-11-2006 10:14 PM #20
    Seeing as how the news is the engine, I'm willing to bet the modified bodywork isn't finished yet.

  21. 09-11-2006 10:14 PM #21

    Quote, originally posted by QUATTR0 »

    No, I never suspected they were from Fourtitude... it's just odd that Audi would release photoshops instead of pics of the real vehicle. Maybe they didn't have time to do a photoshoot or the new bodywork pieces were not ready yet?


    Seeing as how the news is the engine, I'm willing to bet the modified bodywork isn't finished yet.


  22. 09-12-2006 01:55 AM #22
    The Q7 V12 TDI will debut at Paris in a couple weeks, so they better hurry up!

  23. 09-12-2006 03:29 AM #23
    Once again Audi gives us a solution to a problem we didn't have!

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    09-12-2006 09:05 AM #24
    I mean, I like TDI's, power, technology and all as much as the next guy but I gotta say this is bordering on wretched excess!

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    09-12-2006 09:39 AM #25
    Quote, originally posted by QUATTR0 »

    No, I never suspected they were from Fourtitude... it's just odd that Audi would release photoshops instead of pics of the real vehicle. Maybe they didn't have time to do a photoshoot or the new bodywork pieces were not ready yet?

    My guess would be identical to yours. It's probably something that came together without the time to set up a proper shoot.


  26. 09-12-2006 10:57 AM #26
    Remarkable. Looks like it will be producing 59% more hp and 33% more torque than even the VW V10TDI .


  27. 09-12-2006 09:48 PM #27
    What is with the toothy bits on the upper side of the front bumper intakes like in the Passat R lines? That and the wheel choice, otherwise .

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    09-13-2006 10:10 AM #28
    Quote, originally posted by George@Fourtitude »
    Audi is proud to present a world first – the first twelve-cylinder diesel engine in a series passenger car. This six-litre V12 makes its debut in the Audi Q7. It produces a colossal 500 PS and 1,000 Nm of torque. With this engine Audi has opened a new chapter in diesel history.

    Only one question: WHEN is this car coming to US?

    Nevermind, I just found an answer: There are no plans to bring this engine to US. Shame on you Audi. I am considering getting VW Touareg V10 TDI early next year, but I would obviously switch to Q7 V12 TDI, even if it meant waiting few months longer and paying few grants more...


    Modified by maloosheck at 12:56 PM 9-13-2006


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    09-13-2006 11:32 AM #29
    WOW! BEAutiful! Problem is, it's just another model we WON"T get in the USA. The Euro/Dollar conversion will make it totally inpractical even if they wanted to and the volume if they did would be so small dealers wouldn't support it

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    09-13-2006 01:44 PM #30
    Quote, originally posted by Gans »
    5.3 seconds to 60 mph in an SUV that's probably larger than a Ford Escape..

    I guarantee it's larger than the Escape. The Touareg is already somewhat larger than the Escape (no, I haven't measured them both, but I've seen the two parked next to each other), and the Q7 is a little longer than the Touareg.

    Quote, originally posted by Gans »
    and gets nearly 20 mpg?

    The way the article reads, that's combined cycle too! I bet it does 25+ mpg on the highway!

    That's just awesome. I would love for this engine to end up in a light-weight (as light as possible anyway with this cast-iron-blocked V12 in it) sports car.... like someone said, maybe the R8, but I'm thinking lighter. Like full-carbon fiber chassis.


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    09-13-2006 06:16 PM #31
    I've had the Q7 parked next to my wife's XC90 in our garage, and it's slightly bigger than the Volvo.

    As for the USA, it depends what the market demands. Such a motor in any car, Q7, R8, new A8, and whatever else has been theorized woudl be a halo car. As such, they might considr it. If it goes in the R8, I would not be surprised at all to see that car come here.... but this is totally based on my own opinion. I've spoken to no one at Audi about that.


  32. 09-13-2006 07:18 PM #32
    real nice to ga-ga over, but in my opinion is missing the mark marketing wise. i feel the Q should be marketed as an all road/all weather luxury cross over, instead of a sport performance suv. the q as good as it is in my view clearly is not in the performance category of the cayenne (sp) or the new/old x5.

    to that end, i believe the ideal engine choice for the Q is the 4.2 litre diesel. 300-330 bhp+500 ft/lbs of torque+25mpg in combined driving. those specs combined with the superior all weather/all road capability of quattro and 500+ miles per tankful provides a powerful value statement and uniquely positions the q in the marketplace.

    i am also not as excited about the v-12 tdi for a reason i have yet to see adressed.....weight. diesels are heavy. the q already suffers from a 52/48% weight distribution, add beefier drivetrain pieces to accomodate 700+ ft/lbs of torque, beefier suspension to accomodate what will be a very heavy engine, and the problem is compounded. as good as VAG engineers are the principals of physics will rule the roost. i see a heavy, very fast in a straight line, understeering pig.

    make no mistake about it i like the numbers of Audis new beast, just not in the Q. the 4.2 tdi will meet all but the most extreme needs, and do it with less weight and around 30% more efficiently.


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    09-13-2006 10:19 PM #33
    Quote, originally posted by simmikie »
    i am also not as excited about the v-12 tdi for a reason i have yet to see adressed.....weight. diesels are heavy.

    Quote, originally posted by CrazyMonkey »
    I would love for this engine to end up in a light-weight (as light as possible anyway with this cast-iron-blocked V12 in it) sports car....


  34. 09-14-2006 02:16 PM #34
    Quote, originally posted by simmikie »
    the q already suffers from a 52/48% weight distribution, add beefier drivetrain pieces to accomodate 700+ ft/lbs of torque, beefier suspension to accomodate what will be a very heavy engine, and the problem is compounded. as good as VAG engineers are the principals of physics will rule the roost. i see a heavy, very fast in a straight line, understeering pig.
    Mike

    52/48 is hardly suffering.. the Q7 has the best weight distribution of any Audi, and I doubt even the V12 will make it worse than perhaps 55/45, which is still better than any other Audi product currently available.


  35. 09-14-2006 11:41 PM #35
    But would you travel to Euorpe to buy it and bring it home?

    I would, except that I could not afford a mechanic to travel to the USA for every service call.


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